MNZ board nominations

[Crasherfromwayback]

Perhaps I'll go VMX racing. Who's that run by anyone?

By a bunch of laid back Cats that simply love old crusty dirt bikes.

[scott411]

I thought they were having big problems with MNZ a couple years ago. Might be wrong, (lets face it, that's my status quoe), but I vaguely remember reading some shit about it on here.

a few clubs have left MNZ, (whakatane, tarawera and gisbourne that i know of) and there has been some talk about leaving form other clubs as well, but it has been just talk at this stage

for the record, i think we are stronger together, and think we should work toward that, and some of what Sidecar Bobs say is very true, if you do not care enough to vote, i do not think you have the right to complain

[sidecar bob]

I vaguely remember reading some shit on here.

Vaguely remember reading some SHIT on here??? Best post so far.

[scrivy]

MX riders are clearly munters if they cant be arsed with politics, because its politics that dictate where the sport ends up.
Probably most of the people in the dole queue dont care about politics either, as long as they are getting what they are wanting.
Maybe the MX people need screwing over too, so they sit up & take a bit of notice.

Apathy is alive and well in NZ!
Choppa started the President Poll thread, but didn't know if there were any more candidates, or even how to vote for them.
Choppa is at the pointy end of the field, and has spent alot of money on his sport, but has no idea on the politics that drive/steer/support his sport.
Not pointing the finger at you Choppa, just stating that for a well known and popular superbike rider, even you aren't aware of the politics that govern our sport.
That is apathy. Unfortunately most of MNZ members are. That is sad. This sport would be so much better off with more communication to its members.

[Drew]

Not pointing the finger at you Choppa, just stating that for a well known and popular superbike rider, even you aren't aware of the politics that govern our sport.
That is apathy. Unfortunately most of MNZ members are. That is sad. This sport would be so much better off with more communication to its members.

Sloan is a mate of mine, but I'll point the finger at him. And others for that matter.

Both he and Marcus have often spoken out about things they weren't happening in our sport. As a whole and individual instances at events.

Yet neither of them has even tried to even find out the correct process to voice their concerns, (just so ya know people, Kiwibiker.co.nz isn't mentioned once in the complaints process of MNZ).

If people aren't concerned enough for the sake of their own issues, why should MNZ actively seek them out?

[Biggles08]

Both he and Marcus have often spoken out about things they weren't happening in our sport. As a whole and individual instances at events.

Yet neither of them has even tried to even find out the correct process to voice their concerns, (just so ya know people, Kiwibiker.co.nz isn't mentioned once in the complaints process of MNZ).

Yeah but to be fair...we are both a bit slow on the uptake...one of us on the track too

[Billy]

Apathy is alive and well in NZ!
Choppa started the President Poll thread, but didn't know if there were any more candidates, or even how to vote for them.
Choppa is at the pointy end of the field, and has spent alot of money on his sport, but has no idea on the politics that drive/steer/support his sport.
Not pointing the finger at you Choppa, just stating that for a well known and popular superbike rider, even you aren't aware of the politics that govern our sport.
That is apathy. Unfortunately most of MNZ members are. That is sad. This sport would be so much better off with more communication to its members.

Yes,Apathy has probably held the sport make more than anything,

One of the steps forward instituted by this administration has been the invent of online voting,Lets all make use of it and vote,Remember,You cant complain if didnt have input.

[scrivy]

Yes,Apathy has probably held the sport make more than anything,

One of the steps forward instituted by this administration has been the invent of online voting,Lets all make use of it and vote,Remember,You cant complain if didnt have input.

Absolutely correct!!

Shit Billy, we'll be needing a room at this rate.............

[Billy]

Absolutely correct!!

Shit Billy, we'll be needing a room at this rate.............

Long as Im not paying

[Biggles08]

Long as Im not paying

I'll pay....just pretend I'm not even in the room...

[Billy]

I'll pay....just pretend I'm not even in the room...

Like the commentators did at HD you mean ?

[slowpoke]

Apathy is alive and well in NZ!
Choppa started the President Poll thread, but didn't know if there were any more candidates, or even how to vote for them.
Choppa is at the pointy end of the field, and has spent alot of money on his sport, but has no idea on the politics that drive/steer/support his sport.
Not pointing the finger at you Choppa, just stating that for a well known and popular superbike rider, even you aren't aware of the politics that govern our sport.
That is apathy. Unfortunately most of MNZ members are. That is sad. This sport would be so much better off with more communication to its members.

A lot of what you say is true but I'll disagree with ya on this one. Apathy by definition means not giving a fuck, whereas Choppa and huge proportion of the racing community clearly do give a fuck, we just have no means of accessing information or no desire to spend time looking for information that doesn't exist.

Case in point: the nominees. Ok so I know the names of complete strangers who are going to run the sport I am passionate about...........how does that help me? I don't know these people, their background, their capabilities, their people skills, their plans, their dreams. Unless they are a complete numpty even reading a paragarph or two of edited, carefully scripted words that could have been prepared by anybody doesn't help me.

Which is why people come to a site like this and try and sift through the bullshit. A lot of it surely is bullshit but there's also some good information from people who aren't complete strangers and it's easy to access. Something similar on the MNZ website would go a long way towards improving communication and removing the gulf between the hierarchy and the mainstream members.

[Biggles08]

Which is why people come to a site like this and try and sift through the bullshit. A lot of it surely is bullshit but there's also some good information from people who aren't complete strangers and it's easy to access. Something similar on the MNZ website would go a long way towards improving communication and removing the gulf between the hierarchy and the mainstream members.

100% agree! Well said and this is exactly what I would like the MNZ folk to understand if nothing else. People do care, but have very little in the way of tools to do much about it.

This years 'online voting' is a huge step forward in my opinion and I have attempted to create a bit of awareness on my facebook page too. I must congratulate the two candidates in getting involved in discussions both on here and on my facebook page. I for one have learned a considerable amount just from that.

[Biggles08]

Like the commentators did at HD you mean ?

EXACTLY the same!!! I paid there too...haha

[jasonu]

100% agree! Well said and this is exactly what I would like the MNZ folk to understand if nothing else. People do care, but have very little in the way of tools to do much about it.

This years 'online voting' is a huge step forward in my opinion and I have attempted to create a bit of awareness on my facebook page too. I must congratulate the two candidates in getting involved in discussions both on here and on my facebook page. I for one have learned a considerable amount just from that.

Link to your FB page please.