MNZ board nominations

**ashracer** · 25th April 2011, 20:27

Originally Posted by jellywrestler

you mean the one where pete the pirate broke down over the back on the warm up lap, ran over to the pits and grabbed his spare bike to huge cheers from the crowd, the one where Dave and Warwick spun out to cheers from the crowd, the one where Bron and Simonsen where coming through the dipper on the warm up lap and the race had started and even when he came around onto the start line the starter didn't even bother to put out the start flag, and it was wet so everyone who was out there was having was a difficult time of it on slicks from memory....
There wasn't dicing going on but it was far from 'the most pathetic race ever'

TV coverage obviously didnt do the race justice. I'm not taking the piss for the hell of it, it must of been poorly edited. I'll watch it again to double check.

**Damien_Toman** · 25th April 2011, 22:10

Originally Posted by gav

Maybe its time for Sidecars to be dropped from the National class. I suggest the class that replaces them is is F4/F5, its about time this became a National Championship.

IMHO we should definitely have a F4/F5 National Championship - would be awesome for the sport and bring many more people into racing (most affordable class). It would be great to keep the sidecars too

.

**scrivy** · 25th April 2011, 22:51

Chris Lawrance was always keen to have the F4 and F5 GPs at the TRRS.

**Biggles08** · 25th April 2011, 23:06

Originally Posted by slowpoke

I think we're talking at cross purposes big fulla. I totally agree if you want the best racers you have to push the youngsters and the competition/training they get. You and Pete, by the way, do a fantastic job of that. But I think that's a separate issue to growing the sport as a whole.

One way to look at it would be to ask ourselves: how does creating more Stroud's and Slights and Crafar's help the general rank and file competitors? Given that the general public doesn't know who these people are I can't think of a reason. An increase in overall skill level doesn't make the sport more affordable, attract more sponsors, or increase recognition/marketability. The most famous bike racer in NZ is probably Johnny Hepburn, and ironically because of his V8 Taxi Racing exposure.

Which is why I think promotion is our biggest hurdle. Maybe I'm expecting too much, but on a great weekend weatherwise there would have been less than a thousand spectators attracted to the Manfeild NZSBK round and far less than the average number of competitors at a Vic Winter event. Neither number is acceptable for what is an exciting easily marketed NZ Championship event and it's a hard sell to any sponsor who isn't in it for the love of it.

I see promotion as key for increasing public visibility/recognition and therefore "sponsor-ability" so talented guys like Johnny Burkhart and others aren't forced out of the sport as soon as they've got a missus and a mortgage or have a decent crash (one and the same thing?). With increased exposure comes a little less reaching into our own pockets as more sponsors become involved, and more people rock up to meetings, and more competitors are inclined to enter and more youngsters wanna have a crack at it etc etc. That to me is growing the sport as a whole and helps out every single competitor.

But hey, it's not an either or situation, and things would dramatically improve if we tackled both issues. Higher profile events with better riders and increased competition, what's not to like?

But that's the beauty of a forum like this, you and I can present our views and ideas on what is the best way forward for our sport, while other people will agree/disagree or come up with something entirely different. MNZ could do a lot worse than to create something similar to interact with their members, I reckon people would be a lot more aware and more involved. Hell, MNZ wouldn't even have to participate, (but it would be nice if someone did) they could just sit back and observe the discussions and issues that it's members bring up.

But as it stands I've got no idea what Jim and Chris's thoughts are on the way forward, so why would I bother voting?

Bloody brilliant post Slowpoke...couldn't have said it better! 100% agree!

**suzuki21** · 26th April 2011, 06:04

Originally Posted by scrivy

15th February 2010 20:01 #181 Billy

The sidecar guys have made the effort to form an organisation to help move the sport forward[/COLOR]

And judging by the turnout it is working very well

**suzuki21** · 26th April 2011, 06:17

I cant believe you are still bleating about the Bryce Meads conspiracy Scrivy, build a bridge - he has. I am going to renew my licence so I can vote as I am seriously concerned we will end up in a group run by what is similar to a disfunctional pack of teenage girls with bipolar disorder who are drunk for the first time amongst boys. Would be nice if someone got the ball rolling on a breakaway TWO WHEELED group to MNZ in case the worst happens, oh, I think they have, whoops I didnt say that.

**scott411** · 26th April 2011, 08:25

Originally Posted by suzuki21

I cant believe you are still bleating about the Bryce Meads conspiracy Scrivy, build a bridge - he has. I am going to renew my licence so I can vote as I am seriously concerned we will end up in a group run by what is similar to a disfunctional pack of teenage girls with bipolar disorder who are drunk for the first time amongst boys. Would be nice if someone got the ball rolling on a breakaway TWO WHEELED group to MNZ in case the worst happens, oh, I think they have, whoops I didnt say that.

maybe the dirtbiker's should just leave them with you road racers, and take our 75% of the income and bugger off,

**Drew** · 26th April 2011, 09:41

I know I should just not read this thread, but I just cant help myself.

Scrivy, could you present your argument outside the quote bubbles from now on? It makes it impossible to quote back what you are saying.

Billy, I am speaking to you, and Shaun Harris too. Please make an effort to use the two words right. I am obsessive compulsive and it's giving me a headache.

Ok, LET'S GET IT ON!!!

**Tony.OK** · 26th April 2011, 09:45

Originally Posted by Drew

I know I should just not read this thread, but I just cant help myself.

Scrivy, could you present your argument outside the quote bubbles from now on? It makes it impossible to quote back what you are saying.

What you on about?

Originally Posted by Drew

Billy, I am speaking to you, and Shaun Harris too. Please make an effort to use the two words right. I am obsessive compulsive and it's giving me a headache.

Ok, LET'S GET IT ON!!!

I'm glad someone else noticed, I was just being polite

**Billy** · 26th April 2011, 09:48

Originally Posted by scott411

maybe the dirtbiker's should just leave them with you road racers, and take our 75% of the income and bugger off,

Very valid point Scott and one that clearly not many that frequent this site realise!

Interestingly I had a pm from a member on this site that researched MNZ and was shocked too find that MNZ was absolutely nothing like the organisation he had been led too believe through the ramblings on this site,He was surprised we got some of the things we do,Given the set up of MNZ and its meagre income and the small amount of volunteers involved.

**Billy** · 26th April 2011, 09:51

Originally Posted by Drew

I know I should just not read this thread, but I just cant help myself.

Scrivy, could you present your argument outside the quote bubbles from now on? It makes it impossible to quote back what you are saying.

Billy, I am speaking to you, and Shaun Harris too. Please make an effort to use the two words right. I am obsessive compulsive and it's giving me a headache.

Ok, LET'S GET IT ON!!!

Sorry mate,Its all the time I spent behind the bike sheds at NaeNae college instead of in English classes.LOL

**Drew** · 26th April 2011, 09:55

Originally Posted by Billy

Sorry mate,Its all the time I spent behind the bike sheds at NaeNae college instead of in English classes.LOL
It's OK. I've decided that this thread will be more interesting if someone injects some juvenile fun poking into it. And really sorry, but you were better learning English out the back of the bike sheds than in any classroom in Naenae my friend.

Oi Scrivenor (sp?), you're so ugly yo momma used to feed you with a sling shot!