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    Just thought you may be interested. (who was the race steward on the day)


    [QUOTE=jellywrestler;1130044811]you mean the one where pete the pirate broke down over the back on the warm up lap, ran over to the pits and grabbed his spare bike to huge cheers from the crowd,


    Rulebook:
    6.8.2 If a machine is disabled in the course of a race or heat the competitor shall be
    allowed to use another machine in other races subject to re handicap but not to ride
    another machine during that particular race or heat.



    the one where Dave and Warwick spun out to cheers from the crowd, the one where Bron and Simonsen where coming through the dipper on the warm up lap and the race had started


    6.6.4 Competitors shall always be prepared to start in accordance with the programme
    when called upon to do so. Any competitor late for the start will forfeit his/her
    chance of competition.

    How then did Bron get awarded points/GP. Surely it was Anan/Demmocks.





    Hey spyda, do you remember when westie & ash V "bought" vince messinas sidecar for $10 so they could use it in a race after theres had blown up.
    I will have the sidecar gp link up in a mo

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crasherfromwayback View Post
    All due respect to the bucket racers here...fuck that. Keep buckets to small tracks where they seem quite fast and are fun to ride. Waiting 3 mins for your bucket to finish the back straight of Manfield ain't fun for anyone.
    I would think Buckets would be around 1.50 at Minefield
    "If you can make black marks on a straight from the time you turn out of a corner until the braking point of the next turn, then you have enough power."


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    Send Lawyers, guns and money, the shit has hit the fan

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kickaha View Post
    I would think Buckets would be around 1.50 at Minefield
    Dude...that's painful to watch. People used to say 883 Twinsport racing was slow...but we were doing 1.19's. I mean honestly...a 5 lap race would take nearly 10 fucking minutes! I'm all for buckets etc...but not on a proper road racing track.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Billy View Post
    Not sure Id agree with the sidecars being dropped to allow the introduction of a National Championship for buckets for a number of reasons,The first being the entry fees for the National championship classes totalled slightly over $900.00 + $350.00 for transponders fees if you didnt have your own,After many years dealing with the bucket fraternity I think that would scare a good percentage of them off,Secondly where would you fit them in?You couldnt run them as a stand alone class as many of the Superbike and 600 riders are complaining of a lack of tracktime and you couldnt run them in with Prolite 250/Streetstock as for the 3 South Island rounds they are already over subscribed.I understand the sentiment but I think the general public would rather see the sidecars and you could probably run a streetstock 150 for less than a bucket.
    Billy, good points, but is there any way we can accomodate all these classes?

    Many riders prefer buckets to streetstocks as racing tyres and other modifications are allowed. Could we handle it by balancing entries and classes (in advance) in a way that works for the demand at any particular meeting? Spectators like big grids and plenty of racing action.

    At Hampton Downs the grid was small for Prolites/SS. I know many bucket racers who would have paid the price, including myself, if there had been a bucket (F4) class added - even if there was no round justified for that class in the South Island (going by your statement on over-subscriptions of Prolites/SS).

    There is no need to drop any class, unless the advance entries do not stack up.

    Many riders, understandably, may choose not to do all national rounds - but, could they still be allowed to pay, enter and maybe score a few points in a round or two? This could provide a better financial outcome, I suggest, for the organising bodies, and maybe provide all classes with a chance at the nationals? Might it generate more spectator interest? Maybe some fresh thinking at MNZ could bring these sorts of changes?

    Regards

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    [QUOTE=ashracer;1130046225]Just thought you may be interested.

    Quote Originally Posted by jellywrestler View Post
    you mean the one where pete the pirate broke down over the back on the warm up lap, ran over to the pits and grabbed his spare bike to huge cheers from the crowd,


    Rulebook:
    6.8.2 If a machine is disabled in the course of a race or heat the competitor shall be
    allowed to use another machine in other races subject to re handicap but not to ride
    another machine during that particular race or heat.twas on the warm up laps



    the one where Dave and Warwick spun out to cheers from the crowd, the one where Bron and Simonsen where coming through the dipper on the warm up lap and the race had started


    6.6.4 Competitors shall always be prepared to start in accordance with the programme
    when called upon to do so. Any competitor late for the start will forfeit his/her
    chance of competition.

    How then did Bron get awarded points/GP. Surely it was Anan/Demmocks.they weren't late, were still coming around on the warm up lap, I don't know that the starter even knew they were there??





    Hey spyda, do you remember when westie & ash V "bought" vince messinas sidecar for $10 so they could use it in a race after theres had blown up.
    I will have the sidecar gp link up in a mo
    yeah, and as the bike had a letter on it there was a whisper that someone might be able protest, Kiwi's with NZ licenses could only run numbers. I went and mentioned the rule so they could get it clarified before the start and they weren't happy with me, hey I was only the messenger.
    I'd rather it be sorted if it could before the race than after, mind you I'd also gone up to Westie and asked if he wanted some blocks on the pedals so he could reach them.
    He did alright too, as the brake & gears were on the opposite sides to what he was used to
    Fuck me, that was in Invercargill!


    I also remember commentating at Ruapuna after we'd been sidelined with mechanical troubles, Aaron Lovell spat Blue off the ambo was dispatched to the scene, he threw her on the bike and came back to the pits, I had my leathers still on so jumped on and finished the race with him.
    There's a rule saying you must complete the race with the same passenger, brought in after the Fatal crash at Porirua where two teams swapped places, one pair electing not to complete the race, the other pair joined forces.
    No-one protested then

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    [QUOTE=ashracer;1130046225]

    Rulebook:
    6.8.2 If a machine is disabled in the course of a race or heat the competitor shall be
    allowed to use another machine in other races subject to re handicap but not to ride
    another machine during that particular race or heat.








    [QUOTE]
    so how did Dennis Charlett get to finish the 600cc race at manfeild a couple of weeks back then?
    he cleared it with the officials

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    Quote Originally Posted by sidecar bob View Post
    W.T.F? how did you arrive at that from that? So if I give you a chocolate fish, can you turn it into an areoplane for me?
    people see what they want too when you look for shit you find shit

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crasherfromwayback View Post
    Dude...that's painful to watch. People used to say 883 Twinsport racing was slow...but we were doing 1.19's. I mean honestly...a 5 lap race would take nearly 10 fucking minutes! I'm all for buckets etc...but not on a proper road racing track.
    Al Hoogie qualified on pole on a CBR150 at Ruapuna in the Streetstock race which also included ProLites. How fast and how long did there races take at Manfield?
    Ok, just went and checked, I think the fast buckets would be around the 1.30's, and pretty sure the fastest buckets would be quicker than the ProLites.
    Hey, if you find it boring, take ya time and go get a beer or a hotdog ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kickaha View Post
    Fuck those whining prima donnas they've no more right to more track time than the rest of us
    Not sure how you got Scrivys name in there,But hes gonna be pissed when he sees youve used it on one of my quotes lol

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    [QUOTE=Damien_Toman;1130046233]Billy, good points, but is there any way we can accomodate all these classes?

    Many riders prefer buckets to streetstocks as racing tyres and other modifications are allowed. Could we handle it by balancing entries and classes (in advance) in a way that works for the demand at any particular meeting? Spectators like big grids and plenty of racing action.

    At Hampton Downs the grid was small for Prolites/SS. I know many bucket racers who would have paid the price, including myself, if there had been a bucket (F4) class added - even if there was no round justified for that class in the South Island (going by your statement on over-subscriptions of Prolites/SS).

    There is no need to drop any class, unless the advance entries do not stack up.

    Many riders, understandably, may choose not to do all national rounds - but, could they still be allowed to pay, enter and maybe score a few points in a round or two? This could provide a better financial outcome, I suggest, for the organising bodies, and maybe provide all classes with a chance at the nationals? Might it generate more spectator interest? Maybe some fresh thinking at MNZ could bring these sorts of changes?

    Regards

    Damien[/QUOTe

    Thanks for the reply Damien,

    Have you spoken too the current admin at MNZ and put your case forward?

    Sounds feasible and makes good sense in the NorthIsland rounds,Maybe you could talk too them about running a championship say,The two North Island rounds and the TRRS,Not very fair for the South Island guys though unless as Suggested by Gav they drop the clubbies down there and replace them with buckets,Food for thought,Whichever Admin we end up with though,Your still gonna have to contact them and not expect them to call you,If I was you Id be contacting the Roadrace commission chairman asap,But do some research first,Good luck!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by gav View Post
    Al Hoogie qualified on pole on a CBR150 at Ruapuna in the Streetstock race which also included ProLites. How fast and how long did there races take at Manfield?
    Ok, just went and checked, I think the fast buckets would be around the 1.30's, and pretty sure the fastest buckets would be quicker than the ProLites.
    Hey, if you find it boring, take ya time and go get a beer or a hotdog ...
    See my reply too Damien above,

    Maybe contact him and see what you can nut out too take to the roadrace commissioner,Im sure you guys can be accomodated at the North Island rounds.

    Dont worry about Pete(Crasherfromwayback),Hes just old and grumpy LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by old rig View Post
    people see what they want too when you look for shit you find shit
    Its feckin hard toooooo(hows that drew)miss in this thread.

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    2010 nz sidecar gp upload failed. So heres the 2009 sidecar gp highlights (from the 2010 tv coverage). Will try again spyda

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfR-GTb7rkA

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    Quote Originally Posted by Billy View Post
    Not sure how you got Scrivys name in there,But hes gonna be pissed when he sees youve used it on one of my quotes lol
    Because of the way the interbred hillbilly does his replies

    Fuck him, he'd get over it but I fixed it anyway
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drew View Post
    I know I should just not read this thread, but I just cant help myself.

    Scrivy, could you present your argument outside the quote bubbles from now on? It makes it impossible to quote back what you are saying.

    Billy, I am speaking to you, and Shaun Harris too. Please make an effort to use the two words right. I am obsessive compulsive and it's giving me a headache.

    Ok, LET'S GET IT ON!!!


    gess that explains my youth in Social Welfare then eh, only managed 3 months of secondary schooling, and they were lots of fun with the Girls so fuk u tooo
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