Can a stock NC30 be competitive?

[Drew]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devolution_%28biology%29

The emergence of rugby football, in all its guises, is conclusive evidence that the human species is devolving back toward the ape.

Maybe not....but it's fitting.

No, that's Evolution. Since the species changes to fit an environment.

Regressive evolution at best, but I'm pretty sure "devolution" is a colloquialism at best.

[Grumph]

presumably they ran like champs for 15 minutes then went off like an RPG round into an Al Qaeda base?

Not a bit of it...Tony's did it's first season on our methanol blend then 2nd season on Amanda's nitro cocktail - winning F3 both years - on the same rings and bearings as it started with.He sold it and I understand it ran at club and national level for some time afterward - I lost sight of it.
Mine has the same rings in it now as it came with new...crank got replaced when Rob Lewis having a guest ride over did it dicing with Hepburn.
The bottom end of the supercharged one was stock - clearanced and with shot peened rods. Stock compression ratio too.
Methanol is lovely stuff for making a motor last - bring it back, I say...
Mine's still in the barn...maybe one day.

[scracha]

No, that's Evolution. Since the species changes to fit an environment.

Regressive evolution at best, but I'm pretty sure "devolution" is a colloquialism at best.

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/devolution

[Drew]

Methanol is lovely stuff for making a motor last - bring it back, I say...
Mine's still in the barn...maybe one day.

Methanol is perfectly legal in post classics, so get it fired up!

[crazy man]

Methanol is perfectly legal in post classics, so get it fired up!

why would you want to go slower with methanol ;-)

[Racin Jason]

I think i can give you a good idea of what a stock NC30 can do
My NC30 was meant as a cheap bike for me to get some track time, and see if i still knew how to race a bike.

Totally stock i could do about 1.20.0
It now has rear shock(rebuilt) from a bigger bike, which raised rear ride height, half exhaust system, carb mods, charging system removed, and thats it
best time so far is 1.18.0 on a track day with worn gpra12's. it could probably do 1.17.5 with slicks on a good day.
I think these times are pushing the limits of the bike pretty hard.

The whole bike owes me about $2k (inlcuding mods) I wouldn't bother going any further with it, except maybe forks if i can be bothered). It will cost huge money to bring it anywhere near the SV's and would be far too unreliable.
Ill just be punting it around in posties for a while before handing it over to the misses.

[allribs]

i started out on a stock 20 year old cbr 400 and did 1 18s around manfield,with a few tweaks beats most the 650s and dos 1 15s

[Kickaha]

Methanol is perfectly legal in post classics, so get it fired up!

Only for real Post Classics pre72/82

10.17.3 The following classes shall have the choice of either petrol having maximum characteristics not exceeding “Avgas, Unleaded FIM” or methanol, both as defined in Appendix E. Sidecars as defined in chapter 27. National Speed Records, Hill Climb – Road and Grass, Beach, Classic Road Racing as defined in Chapter 23, Post Classic (Period 72) Road Racing as defined in Rule 25.3, Post Classic (Period 82) Road Racing as defined in Rule 25.4 (4 stroke engines only), Grass Track and Speedway Sidecars and those classes of Oval Racing defined in Chapter 19 and 20 except 20.27, 20.31 and 20.32. Any machines
using methanol must display “Dangerous Goods” or other appropriate stickers
that clearly indicate its use, on the machine in a prominent place e.g. number
boards.

[racefactory]

i started out on a stock 20 year old cbr 400 and did 1 18s around manfield,with a few tweaks beats most the 650s and dos 1 15s

that's impressive mate... was it an NC29? Seems like the 400s can't keep up with the 650s these days though eh.

[montsta56]

that's impressive... was it an NC29? Seems like the 400s can't keep up with the 650s these days though eh.

These day's? He's talking bout a few months ago.

[racefactory]

These day's? He's talking bout a few months ago.

Really? Even more cool then.

Is the NC29 a better choice than the NC30? What mods can be viably done on the NC29 vs NC30?

[Grumph]

[QUOTE=Kickaha;1130026304]Only for real Post Classics pre72/82

Someone didn't follow through and change the fuel regs...the class rules state Open fuel...exact same as pre 82 etc but pre 89 has been omitted from the fuel regs.

Methanol (and Nitro) was permitted in period so I think the intent is clear but the execution was faulty when the pre 89 regs were inserted.

Anyone from NZPCRA want to approach MNZ for an official clarification ?

[allribs]

Really? Even more cool then.

Is the NC29 a better choice than the NC30? What mods can be viably done on the NC29 vs NC30?

yeah i think they are better,easier to modify and make better top end hp,you can still buy lots of after market goodies,but depends how much you want to spend

[scracha]

that's impressive mate... was it an NC29? Seems like the 400s can't keep up with the 650s these days though eh.

If it's who I think it is then yep, it's an NC29....and I'm Soooooooo glad it wasn't an NC23 And it did more than keep up with the 650's too.

[gav]

Just asking, but isnt the NC30 a 1990 model? Why is it running in Pre 89?
Just run it in clubmans and take it easy, dont wanna go smashing up those fairings. But just remember 20 year old suspension aint gonna be fun ....

And I can remember that McMurdo GPZ500, painted pink wasnt it? Didnt he build a carbon fibre frame for it at one stage?