MNZ board nominations

**sidecar bob** · 5th May 2011, 14:16

Originally Posted by Billy

I also wonder whether the chow has considered the enormity of the job regarding a bi monthly newsletter to 5500 members covering seven disciplines???

Not very difficult, you have four or five people from each discipline providing news to your e mail address. You proof read it & sort it & compile it into some kind of newsletter format & press send on your e mail.
In this day & age you dont need to send a man on an Ass to 5000 households.
Bloody amazing!!

**scrivy** · 5th May 2011, 14:22

Originally Posted by sidecar bob

Bloody amazing!!

It is isn't it!!

**Paul Searancke** · 5th May 2011, 14:32

Originally Posted by scrivy

.....and that is why Pav had to be 'paid out', as Jim stuffed up his dismissal, and Pav could have wiped Jim's arse with the law suit.
Scrivy

That Mr Scrivener is a lie, you know an untruth, the sort of thing that you accuse others of all the time.
Mr Pavletich was not dismissed, the position of CEO was dis-established after an independent review by Directioneering NZ Ltd, a Human Resource consultancy company. There was also another position dis-established at the same time.

Paul Searancke

**Billy** · 5th May 2011, 15:20

Originally Posted by scott411

who else is up for election?

the NI Off Road, and the SI Road were both appointed without an election due to being the only nomination.

Sorry misread your post,I thought you meant for President,So because hes the only board member up for election,Everythings his fault,Got it!!!

**Billy** · 5th May 2011, 15:31

Originally Posted by sidecar bob

Not very difficult, you have four or five people from each discipline providing news to your e mail address. You proof read it & sort it & compile it into some kind of newsletter format & press send on your e mail.
In this day & age you dont need to send a man on an Ass to 5000 households.
Bloody amazing!!

Na,Piece of piss,These four or five people from the seven disciplines,Im picking they probably arent gonna be part of the general membership that cant even be bothered accessing the information available currently on the website,Or for the best part dont bother voting either??

You realise too of course thats another 28-35 volunteers to add to the huge number that already supply their time free of charge,Even though you stated earlier you had a problem with my statement that MNZ is largely run by volunteers,How long do you reckon it would be before they tired of the job and Ian had too start chasing them up?Thats assuming there are another 28-35 people willing to do the job in the first place.Yip easy peasy.

**scrivy** · 5th May 2011, 16:11

Originally Posted by Paul Searancke

That Mr Scrivener is a lie, you know an untruth, the sort of thing that you accuse others of all the time.
Mr Pavletich was not dismissed, the position of CEO was dis-established after an independent review by Directioneering NZ Ltd, a Human Resource consultancy company. There was also another position dis-established at the same time.

Paul Searancke

Isn't it great Paul that if you pay a consultant a truck load of money (you know our members money), that they will tell you exactly what you want to hear! That is how it goes Paul, isn't it?!
Dis-established? You mean fired?! A personal vendeta against Pav by Jim. Oh - you could call it a hidden agenda if you like.
Isn't it funny how information got around the day after conference that Jim got elected, that Paul's job was going to go -and by Jim none the less!! This was in fact WAY WAY WAY before you had your consultants in Paul!
Not only that, why don't you go back into your Board minutes, and see exactly what Jim did to Pav, and how he attacked Pav right from as soon as he walked into the MNZ office.

About the other dis-established position.... you mean the one that had to be re-established on a higher pay rate, costing us MNZ members even more money?????

Now Mr Searancke, you can call me a liar if you want to, but, I can go into more detail if you like?
Because other members on here haven't seen the minutes, I'm more than keen to list any lies you say I'm stating.

**scott411** · 5th May 2011, 16:21

Originally Posted by Billy

,Everythings his fault,Got it!!!

I never said that, but along the same lines, not everything that got done was Jim's own work either, there is a big team that does a lot of good work, and some of them have posted on this thread,

**The Chow** · 5th May 2011, 16:23

Originally Posted by Billy

Na,Piece of piss,These four or five people from the seven disciplines,Im picking they probably arent gonna be part of the general membership that cant even be bothered accessing the information available currently on the website,Or for the best part dont bother voting either??

You realise too of course thats another 28-35 volunteers to add to the huge number that already supply their time free of charge,Even though you stated earlier you had a problem with my statement that MNZ is largely run by volunteers,How long do you reckon it would be before they tired of the job and Ian had too start chasing them up?Thats assuming there are another 28-35 people willing to do the job in the first place.Yip easy peasy.

What???? Mate I'm not going to publish anything if no one sends anything , so that problem is solved. I won't be chasing anyone up. That will be for MNZ to provide the info not me.

It is not going to be the bible for godsake, it only requires info about what MNZ are up to not news about racing as such.

**The Chow** · 5th May 2011, 16:35

Originally Posted by The Chow

What???? Mate I'm not going to publish anything if no one sends anything , so that problem is solved. I won't be chasing anyone up. That will be for MNZ to provide the info not me.

It is not going to be the bible for godsake, it only requires info about what MNZ are up to not news about racing as such.

I get bloody sick of the only volunteers argument , mate it doesn't matter if they get paid or not , people who put there name up for a job should at least see it out and not pass the buck when a bit of shit gets thrown.

I have wanted to walk from the sport many times , but something keeps me here , and I think it might just be the people that keep me coming back. Like or lump it WE are all in this sport together and we need to face the problems together , cut the bloody bitching , voting is over in a week and I would imagine a large proportion have already done so. What will be will be. So Fuck up and get over yourselves.

**Billy** · 5th May 2011, 16:40

Originally Posted by sidecar bob

Not very difficult, you have four or five people from each discipline providing news to your e mail address. You proof read it & sort it & compile it into some kind of newsletter format & press send on your e mail.
In this day & age you dont need to send a man on an Ass to 5000 households.
Bloody amazing!!

Originally Posted by The Chow

What???? Mate I'm not going to publish anything if no one sends anything , so that problem is solved. I won't be chasing anyone up. That will be for MNZ to provide the info not me.

Wasnt me that suggested those ideas mate,Read the above post from sidecar bob,Piece if piss apparently!!!

**Billy** · 5th May 2011, 17:02

Originally Posted by scrivy

.....and that is why Pav had to be 'paid out', as Jim stuffed up his dismissal, and Pav could have wiped Jim's arse with the law suit.
Good old Jim. That was his agenda for getting into MNZ

Scrivy

Originally Posted by Paul Searancke

That Mr Scrivener is a lie, you know an untruth, the sort of thing that you accuse others of all the time.
Mr Pavletich was not dismissed, the position of CEO was dis-established after an independent review by Directioneering NZ Ltd, a Human Resource consultancy company. There was also another position dis-established at the same time.

Paul Searancke

Originally Posted by scrivy

Isn't it great Paul that if you pay a consultant a truck load of money (you know our members money), that they will tell you exactly what you want to hear! That is how it goes Paul, isn't it?!
Dis-established? You mean fired?! A personal vendeta against Pav by Jim. Oh - you could call it a hidden agenda if you like.
Isn't it funny how information got around the day after conference that Jim got elected, that Paul's job was going to go -and by Jim none the less!! This was in fact WAY WAY WAY before you had your consultants in Paul!
Not only that, why don't you go back into your Board minutes, and see exactly what Jim did to Pav, and how he attacked Pav right from as soon as he walked into the MNZ office.

About the other dis-established position.... you mean the one that had to be re-established on a higher pay rate, costing us MNZ members even more money???.

So to recap,

A) It was a lie then,Disestablishment of a position culminating in a redundancy package is not a dismissal that lead too a pay out cause it was badly handled.

B)The disestablishment of both postions cost the membership money to begin with,But in the long run the outcome was a $200,000.00 surplus,Mmmm,What was Jim thinking???

If Jims only agenda when running for MNZ president was to get rid of Paul Pavletich then why has he been doing all the other work hes accomplished in the last 2 years,

Mmmm,I smell a rat here if Jims being doing more than he intended,Again,What was he thinking???

**The Chow** · 5th May 2011, 17:09

Originally Posted by Billy

Wasnt me that suggested those ideas mate,Read the above post from sidecar bob,Piece if piss apparently!!!

Well actually Billy it is bloody easy these days and cheap to boot. All that is required is the info , but I won't hold my breath on that. MNZ are not the only ones with this problem , try getting riders and team managers/owners to send race reports , mate don't even get me started on that. I can say one of your riders Simon Volmer sent me info and so did Johnny Small and Choppa Frost, but as for anyone else HA! and it appears the more sponsored they are the worse they are at giving value for their sponsors. So it just isn't MNZ who are fault with communication.

**Billy** · 5th May 2011, 17:12

Originally Posted by The Chow

I get bloody sick of the only volunteers argument , mate it doesn't matter if they get paid or not , people who put there name up for a job should at least see it out and not pass the buck when a bit of shit gets thrown.

I have wanted to walk from the sport many times , but something keeps me here , and I think it might just be the people that keep me coming back. Like or lump it WE are all in this sport together and we need to face the problems together , cut the bloody bitching , voting is over in a week and I would imagine a large proportion have already done so. What will be will be. So Fuck up and get over yourselves.

So who stated "theyre only Volunteers" in this thread????

Its not a good look when you quote your own post and start abusing yourself like that!!!

**sidecar bob** · 5th May 2011, 17:17

Originally Posted by The Chow

What???? Mate I'm not going to publish anything if no one sends anything , so that problem is solved. I won't be chasing anyone up. That will be for MNZ to provide the info not me.

It is not going to be the bible for godsake, it only requires info about what MNZ are up to not news about racing as such.

Exactly. If a paticular discipline wants to get their name out there its up to them to provide you with the info. No info, no exposure & the last thing you should do is chase them.
Im sure that CC ing you into the NZSRA newsletter for example, would be a great start & no real hardship for either party.
I think Billy forgets which end of the bone he's chewing on sometimes, as long as he's backing Jimbob to the hilt & trying to make the rest of us look like a bunch of cunts hes happy.