Age to become independent?

**Mom** · 7th May 2011, 07:00

Originally Posted by mashman

Son is already out and about doing Art at Uni... 20 this year

, me have much pride in that man

.

It is a great feeling eh?

**mashman** · 7th May 2011, 10:37

Originally Posted by Mom

It is a great feeling eh?

I've often wondered if it is Pride, or Relief. Pride in seeing that your kids have become their own selves... (and amazing that you still like each other at the end of it). But what a Relief it is to see them that way too.

**ducatilover** · 7th May 2011, 10:42

You're all so old

**unstuck** · 7th May 2011, 10:49

I left home and school at 14.Sort of had to grow up fast, made a lot of fuck ups but think i came out ok. All my kids are independant and have been from an early age. Only got one at home now(16).

Not long to go.

**george formby** · 7th May 2011, 11:24

I confess to doing a fatt max. I was in london at 16, following the same bands he mentioned & doing similar things. Nearly killed me, nearly...

Recently we had a young woman staying with us, from Yerp, 22 yrs old going on 11. Her whole being was devoted to manipulation & consumerism. I was really taken aback at how naive she is & lacking in life skills & also how much mayhem she created by batting her eyelashes & flashing a bit of Euro cleavage to get what she wanted.

On the plus side she did not drink, smoke or do drugs, maybe that's why I did not like her....

Any hoo, my conclusion. Independence comes with the ability to stand on your own two feet & face the hard facts of life that you have to respect those close to you, fit in & take responsibility for your actions.

**ducatilover** · 7th May 2011, 14:18

Originally Posted by george formby

I confess to doing a fatt max.

Pardon?

**george formby** · 7th May 2011, 14:42

Originally Posted by ducatilover

Pardon?

Damn. Dropped myself right in it.

**ducatilover** · 7th May 2011, 14:44

Originally Posted by george formby

Damn. Dropped myself right in it.

So he said.....

Right, I'll stop being a twat and go fiddle with my.......bike

**Brian d marge** · 7th May 2011, 14:57

Originally Posted by george formby

I confess to doing a fatt max. I was in london at 16, following the same bands he mentioned & doing similar things. Nearly killed me, nearly...

Recently we had a young woman staying with us, from Yerp, 22 yrs old going on 11. Her whole being was devoted to manipulation & consumerism. I was really taken aback at how naive she is & lacking in life skills & also how much mayhem she created by batting her eyelashes & flashing a bit of Euro cleavage to get what she wanted.

On the plus side she did not drink, smoke or do drugs, maybe that's why I did not like her....

Any hoo, my conclusion. Independence comes with the ability to stand on your own two feet & face the hard facts of life that you have to respect those close to you, fit in & take responsibility for your actions.

yup thats me ... damn near killed me too!

There are Japanese here, where 19 they are still children , no friggen Idea , I mean they live at home till they get married ....at 30 ....( its a relief to meet one thats NOT a virgin !

)

Still not a lot of drink, drugs problem here and on saying that .....

BTW this individual thing ....... its a western idea ... Some cultures find individualism strange

Stephen

**ynot slow** · 7th May 2011, 17:33

Have a listen to Robert and Jonnos 'wind up your wife from Weds"a guy 23 in New Plymouth is getting hitched,and pulled a prank on his apron clingon mother,who shifted next door to her son when said son and partner shifted(wtf),the prank was son had bought 1 way tickets to USA,mother went spastic,said his partner could go,but not my boy sobbing etc,thought the crew closed the prank early,mind you the silly bitch still didn't understand her son wants SPACE.

That is opposite of kids leaving me thinks.

I admire my kids going to uni at 17-18 and doing their stuff,I stayed home till married(20yr),but had no reason to go flatting as my board,terms of living etc were fine,heaps of mates went flatting to get out of the percieved totalatarism rules they thought at home,most went back to clean rooms and good food lol.Had respect for parents who are only 20yr older than me,and would happily buy them a drink at pub,and speak to their mates with respect,so gotta say I had a great home life,relative freedom etc.

**Mom** · 7th May 2011, 18:45

I could not bear to be the clinging Mother to my kids. I have always told them when I feel time is right I am going to cash up all my assets and go and live on one of the Cunnard Line's ships. I will stay there untill I am broken arsed, and then I will live with each one of them in turn.

I figure they will cope with me for 3 years at best, so 3 years with one, 3 years with next, 3 years with next. Start again. I am picking by the time 6 years have passed, the first will have forgotten just how LOVELY it is to have Mommy stay

**ynot slow** · 7th May 2011, 20:34

My kids pass me down quote is "Be nice to us we choose ya rest home"

**FJRider** · 7th May 2011, 20:49

Originally Posted by ynot slow

My kids pass me down quote is "Be nice to us we choose ya rest home"

Your reply should be ... be nice to us ... we're spending your inheritance ...

**DrunkenMistake** · 7th May 2011, 21:34

Originally Posted by FJRider

Your reply should be ... be nice to us ... we're spending your inheritance ...

Hahaha,
My parents have gone over all the funeral things with me for the 'Just encase' situation, basicly there is about $15 set aside for a couple of 65L DCC rubbish bags and a flower.
So im pretty sure I wont be getting any inheritance haha

**FJRider** · 7th May 2011, 21:37

Originally Posted by DrunkenMistake

Hahaha,
My parents have gone over all the funeral things with me for the 'Just encase' situation, basicly there is about $15 set aside for a couple of 65L DCC rubbish bags and a flower.
So im pretty sure I wont be getting any inheritance haha

Go up-market ... they do have a wheeley bin ... don't they ... ???