Oh come on

[Jdogg]

And this from their police alert email that was sent out...

"On a dry road at 100km/h it takes 98 metres to stop under ideal conditions, that’s almost the length of a football field, but stopping distances are almost doubled when the road is wet"

Which I am calling them out on, after a wee google search all of the websites that I went to, do not back this claim especially taking into account modern braking systems blah blah it sure as hell does not double in wet conditions.

http://www.rulesoftheroad.ie/rules-f...nces-cars.html

[imdying]

I'll just drive at 95... which with 10% exaggeration from my speedo should be about 86. I wonder if that will cause a problem on state highway 1? Wonder if anyone will die desperately trying to overtake me? It won't matter though, I won't get a speeding ticket as I'll be nice and legal

[nzmikey]

I spose what pisses me off is the fact of where they do it .
They dont do it in the black spots around our nations roads , they do it on the straights & hide . I thought the idea of it was to make sure you go slow on the dangerous bits ??

[oneofsix]

I'll just drive at 95... which with 10% exaggeration from my speedo should be about 86. I wonder if that will cause a problem on state highway 1? Wonder if anyone will die desperately trying to overtake me? It won't matter though, I won't get a speeding ticket as I'll be nice and legal

Not trying to overtake you. It will be the stupid accident due to overt or suppressed road rage later, or the kids or partner will get a hiding, or some innocent bystander. But hey Ms Whatherface from the police will be happy and the govt coffers will be richer.

[MarkH]

I thought the idea of it was to make sure you go slow on the dangerous bits ??

Nah, that would be a waste of time, not enough tickets would be given that way. On the long, straight, wide roads where it is safe to drive at 120 - that's where they can give out the most tickets and earn the maximum revenue!

They believe that the lower tolerance is working to lower the road toll, I believe that there is far too little data to conclude that. The sample size is pretty small and we have plenty of variation in the number of deaths from year to year regardless of whatever law enforcement changes they make. If we get a few high death toll long weekends despite the lower tolerance then what will they say? My guess is lower road tolls are BECAUSE of their policing policies and higher road tolls are DESPITE their policing policies, take the credit for the good and shrug off the bad.

[Swoop]

The weather will be the one thing that decides what happens on the roads.

Knowing the propensity of kiwi's to go and kill themselves on the roads during a long weekend...

4kph over? Big deal. Ride/drive to the conditions and avoid u-turning cop cars.

[Murray]

Having a beer at the clubrooms with a fellow biker on wednesday who thinks he's about to lose license for 3 months with demerots to come for speeding!! When fine arrived it had also added demerits for riding outside his license (over 250CC) even though the cop said he would not do him for that??

Anyway adding up the demerits he had been fined and received 10 points after being pulled up for "not riding to the conditions" He has stated that yes it was pissing down with rain but he was driving at or just under the 100 km speed limit. I have never heard of this one before??? Can they do this???

[tigertim20]

Soooo who is able to not go above 54kmh or 104kmh
coz this weekend if you get caught doing more than 4 over you are done
they claim it saves lives . Personally i think that you end up spending more time making sure that you are not speeding than you do making sure that you are being safe .

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/5092...ce-set-at-4kmh

Im sure plenty of people will say if you speed, tough luck, and I agree, However 4km/hr is a little insane, with speedo error easily approaching 10% + in some vehicles, some people will get pinged when their speedo say 95km/hr this weekend, and get ticketed, thats just not right.

While I agree if you choose to speed, you deserve a ticket, I think that a reasonable buffer should exist, to allow for things like speedo error. Im not aying that at 115 you shouldnt get a ticket, but a reasonable buffer should exist.

I know lots of people will point out that 100km/hr is the LIMIT, not the target, but with that attitude, and the way the speed tolerances are being set, in 5 years time, youll be driving down the road on an overcast day, doing 95km/hr, and a cop will pull you over and say '10 is the limit, drive to the conditions, I dont think you should be doing more than 90 on an overcast day, heres your ticket for 5km over what I think you should be doing.'

Set a reasonable limit, that people are able to actually observe then ping the ones who chose not to. 5km is simply unacheivable realistically for most people

[NighthawkNZ:Me]

Anyway adding up the demerits he had been fined and received 10 points after being pulled up for "not riding to the conditions" He has stated that yes it was pissing down with rain but he was driving at or just under the 100 km speed limit. I have never heard of this one before??? Can they do this???

Was he riding in a dangerous manner or the like??? would be his word against MrPlod ... what was visibilty like, any fog or low cloud, then yes...

However I can happily ride at 100kph in the pooring rain ... but slightest bit of fog you need to slow down more as your visibilty is reduced and remember you must be able to stop in half the distance of visable road ahead of you etc etc etc blah blah blah rant rave...

[george formby]

IMHO these campaigns are aimed at the average (below?) driver who will be watching the clock trying to get too whichever batch/sale/relly over the weekend along with the rest of the herd.
I guess the Polis hope that putting the frighteners on with their 4kmh over message will make them think twice before doing something dumb.
No doubt with the crap weather forecast for the next couple of days the roads will be quieter & hopefully accident rates are low as a consequence. The real shit will be the police propaganda that it was their policy which had this effect on Tuesday morning.
Facts gentlemen, facts is what we need not spin & media stunts.
By the by, if your out on the bike this weekend & get pinged then you may as well consider yourself part of the herd & the polis to be doing a good job. No excuse.

[Dodgy]

Fuck it, I will drive everywhere at either 40 or 80kph. If speed is that dangerous - in particular over the long weekends, it pays to be double vigilant!

[superman]

Last I checked 19km over is still 19km over. So I'm unaffected. YAAAAY

The great thing about the fine system is it kind of encourages certain speeds, to the extremity of the next fine.

IE If I reckon I wanna go 105 in a 100 I might as well go 109 as the fine is the same. Same with the next bracket, if I don't mind the thought of geting a fine at 114 then I might as well go 119. Same demerits same cost.

It sure is fun being young and reckless ... and bitter

[Scuba_Steve]

This thread is too nice.
Lets start one to see who can get the most speeding tickets this weekend .

I will personally pay someone $5 if they get the most speeding tickets this weekend.

Sounds fun. I'll call $5 too.

Let the game commence.

Sweet I'm in for that, I'll get back to ya'll Tuesday with my final count

[tigertim20]

Last I checked 19km over is still 19km over. So I'm unaffected. YAAAAY

The great thing about the fine system is it kind of encourages certain speeds, to the extremity of the next fine.

IE If I reckon I wanna go 105 in a 100 I might as well go 109 as the fine is the same. Same with the next bracket, if I don't mind the thought of geting a fine at 114 then I might as well go 119. Same demerits same cost.

It sure is fun being young and reckless ... and bitter

haha good point!

[HenryDorsetCase]

Having a beer at the clubrooms with a fellow biker on wednesday who thinks he's about to lose license for 3 months with demerots to come for speeding!! When fine arrived it had also added demerits for riding outside his license (over 250CC) even though the cop said he would not do him for that??

Anyway adding up the demerits he had been fined and received 10 points after being pulled up for "not riding to the conditions" He has stated that yes it was pissing down with rain but he was driving at or just under the 100 km speed limit. I have never heard of this one before??? Can they do this???

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