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    Quote Originally Posted by HenryDorsetCase View Post
    ........

    and in 40 years, I'll be sitting on my porch, holding my shotgun, sipping from my jug, and waiting.
    hey that was my retirement plan

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowjack View Post
    If it hadn't been in the context shown above, and not to be picky, but:
    competent?

    And has far as the thread goes, what's with all the negative reaction to learning one of NZ's official languages? It couldn't possibly be fear of the unknown, surely, because we are talking about our neighbours, friends, and families, aren't we?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Banditbandit View Post
    So when you are sitting on your porch with a shotgun and sipping your jug it will be the Polynesian workers (Māori and Pasifika) who will be paying taxes so you can get a pension and pay for your jug ... ..
    Well they had better up the pace regarding getting jobs and NOT getting prison then....otherwise my jug will be empty and my shotgun rusty...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Banditbandit View Post
    You think he should learn German ???? But that's no use since they lost the war ..
    To use modern PC-speak...
    They didn't lose. They came second.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hitcher View Post
    Ko aua mōhio me tū hei kaiwhakamāori, ā kaua te kūare e kīia kia tū, nō te mea mā te kūare e hē ai te iwi.
    Which, translated, means: Here are the scratchings at Te Rapa for race two....
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    I reckon French will be the go ... cause (when) if they win the world cup ... again ... all the All Blacks that go there to play ... will know the language ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pussy View Post
    Which, translated, means: Here are the scratchings at Te Rapa for race two....
    Not quite. More like "The nosewheel on your Fletcher has dropped off. Go around."
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    From a slightly different angle.............

    Well, as a teacher in a NZ high school with around 50% Maori, my 'basic' use of Maori in every lesson makes a massive difference in how all of the kids react to me. They take me more seriously and have more respect because I have taken some time to learn some phrases from their language and therefore acknowledge their culture. I rarely have behaviour issues with any students( over 2 years since i have had to send a kid out of class) and even the hardend gang members in school acknowledge me in a positive manner and talk to with respect even when outside school. It is not rocket science.

    I have witnessed so much discrimination towards Maori kids in schools here its not funny. And it is usually the same teachers that have behaviour issues with Maori kids.


    Not totally on point but relevant from another angle maybe?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rapid van cleef View Post
    Not totally on point but relevant from another angle maybe?
    Totally on point. Maori isn't "their" language, it's "our" language. It's something that defines us as New Zealanders. Generally when people disrespect Te Reo it's due to inherent racism. Whether people choose to learn it or not is another matter entirely. Compulsion, as suggested in media reports earlier today, is not likely to happen for a whole bunch of reasons, not least of which being the resources and costs necessary to convert the teaching profession to the suggested level of competency.
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    I suppose it is on point.

    Lets be realistic here, I use phrases like good morning, good bye, hello, sit down, quiet, well done, thank you, shut up/be quiet, stand up in Maori.(english spelling becuase my maori is VERY basic) and it makes a huge difference. Its not hard. In my opinion, the negativity towards the propsed strategy is a result of inherent rascism, but what do i know?

    If I had to learn to speak competent Maori it would take me some time, but its part and parcel of the job.....and guess what..........it actually decreases behaviour issues, which makes my job easier...............amazing!

    Any tool that we a teachers can use to make our days less stressful and the students more successful, regardless of their race is a good one.

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    not read a thing here bar the title...and



    I work at school and can't get my tongue arount the Maori Language and dont' really care....would rather my tongue elsewhere.....

    who really gives a f....


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    Quote Originally Posted by rapid van cleef View Post
    Any tool that we a teachers can use to make our days less stressful and the students more successful, regardless of their race is a good one.
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    getting your tongue around the languge is nothing more than practice. We are all born with the same physical tools to make the sounds we use in our verbal communications with each other. It comes down to, can you be arsed? is it important to you? will it make a difference to the quality of your life and the others around you? if not, then its not relevant, and thats ok

    Im from the UK and found Maori weird when I arrived here 5 years ago. Similarly, the Maori kids found my Geordie accent hard to deal with. I reckon if you are brought up here and are NOT rascist, then it should be easier surely as your exposure to it is more than someone that has never heard it spoken before.

    But if learning it will not make your life a little easier, as in, you never need to interact with Maori people at all anywhere, then no worries.

    I refused to take french seriosuly when i was at school.....after all.....who likes the french?.........lol

    Rolling the 'r' is tricky, but gets easier with practice.

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