Fluoro vests?

**Big Dave** · 14th June 2011, 14:31

Originally Posted by Scuba_Steve

Max if your not being seen, your not eating enough pies. Now stop all this interwebbing & get back to eating your pies!

Objective should be DIY eclipse.

**Swoop** · 14th June 2011, 14:37

Originally Posted by mazz1972

I am not lulled into a false sense of security by wearing said vest, I just like to give myself a better chance of being seen.

So, have you painted your entire bike in fluoro colours?

**Blackbird** · 14th June 2011, 15:32

Originally Posted by Quasievil

If they cant see me with my lights on and my mass there is no hope no matter what Im wearing a stoopid fluro "gay" vest aint going to make fuck all difference.

to many bikers are going to homoville to be saved by the establishment !

Wearing or not wearing flouro vests is only a small part of the safety equation anyway IMHO. It's the dumbasses who think they know it all and never refresh or upskill their roadcraft abilities that have a great effect on our insurance and ACC premiums.

**javawocky** · 14th June 2011, 16:06

Floro is for Losers!

**Maha** · 14th June 2011, 16:10

Originally Posted by Blackbird

Wearing or not wearing flouro vests is only a small part of the safety equation anyway IMHO. It's the dumbasses who think they know it all and never refresh or upskill their roadcraft abilities that have a great effect on our insurance and ACC premiums.

Best thing I have read in very long time on here...and oh so true.
Once you start thinking you have got it all covered, you are in the deepest of shit.

**Maha** · 14th June 2011, 16:31

**Quasievil** · 14th June 2011, 16:34

Originally Posted by Maha

It would help more if he turned his lights on.

**Maha** · 14th June 2011, 16:41

Originally Posted by Quasievil

It would help more if he turned his lights on.

Yes of cause, that 8-10sq inches would really make a difference.
You cant argue that a Hi Viz does not work well at night.

**p.dath** · 14th June 2011, 16:58

It's just a vest. Easy to wear and use.

Probably doesn't make that much difference during the day, but they definitely stand out more at night and in low light.

If your concerned, wear one. If not, don't bother. Is it that hard?

**Quasievil** · 14th June 2011, 17:07

to be serious for a moment (occasionally I am not often however)

I dont mind what riders do, why should I we all do what we can as individuals to protect ourselves and so we should.

My issue Alone is if they make this a legal requirement, that I have a MAJOR problem with.
But like rego, I will ignore it , suffer the consequences yes, but Im a NZr and my duty is to say no to the dum laws.

**jaffaonajappa** · 14th June 2011, 17:16

Theres some ultra light sensitive 3M Reflective strips on lots of textile gear - these work ok at night. Good on bicycles and running shoes etc......but they only work well in very low light level situations. If the street lights are on, the reflective strips make only a smallll increase in your profile.

Perhaps having some kind of wide band reflective strip is sensible for night riding. In some conditions certainly.

But the fluoro thing, arghhhhh.

Makes me wonder...how the hell did any motorcyclists survive the 70's, 80's and 90's? They didnt have fluroro vests - but they survived? makes no sense.....

**Fatt Max** · 14th June 2011, 17:37

Originally Posted by jaffaonajappa

Makes me wonder...how the hell did any motorcyclists survive the 70's, 80's and 90's? They didnt have fluroro vests - but they survived? makes no sense.....

Well, there are a few on here who would say 'no they didnt, people were still being knocked off in the 70's, 80's and 90's' and that is a fair comment because it is true.

Were the majority of accidents avoidable because they were not wearing a hi viz? Probably not but hey, those stats are fucked anyway.

IMHO, the best way is to improve riding skills and overall awareness on the roads, hi viz or not. Take personal responsibility for you, your bike and your riding.

Imagine 20 years down the track when Hi Viz is possibly legal and someone is knocked off their bike. The first person to be sued would be the vest manufacturer because 'it was not visible my lud...'.

The responsibility for the rider behaving like a twat would not even come into it and once agin the only winners are the fecking lawyers.

Personal responsibility I reckon, but hey........

**The Singing Chef** · 14th June 2011, 17:40

Originally Posted by Maha

I thought that was a home remake of Tron.

**Mokadah** · 14th June 2011, 17:42

I also wear black on a black bike, and suspect there may be something to the intimidation theory. The balaclava and black sunnies underneath the helmet may also help.

Mind you I almost never need to ride at night. YMMV.