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    Quote Originally Posted by imac View Post
    if for some reason your light is not on, it’s now officially your fault for getting smashed.
    Almost....and I do get cops want to talk to me about my Suzuki for this reason...and I also get bikers waving to remind me my lights are off. But. Pre 1980 bikes, lights do not have to be switched on. (As the riders always are.)

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    Hi ves vests don't work! Those EQC bastards wear them & after 3 major earthquakes I'm yet to see one!
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    Quote Originally Posted by p.dath View Post
    So the question is, what percentage of the accidents will it make a difference. Each rider effectively makes this assessment for themselves. And if they think that number is big enough to take into consideration, they will take the step of wearing a vest.
    And if it stays this way I don't have a problem. I worry that if too many bikers give hi-vis vests too much credit they will become a legal requirement.
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    The French police has been instructed to take action against the usage of radar detection devices. Since more than 4 million speed detection devices have been sold in France over the last few years, many road users are affected by this decision.

    Last week French Minister of the interior Claude Guéant announced that all electronic devices, even smart phones and GPS systems, will be banned in case they are able to warn of radar speed checks. Sanctions are draconian and might go up to 30.000 Euros or 2 years prison for the sale of such devices while its usage will be punished by a fine of 1.500 Euros plus the loss of 6 points of the French traffic account system.

    Apart from that there are more threats French riders are facing: mandatory wearing of fluorescent jacket on a motorcycle at all time, the fitting of much larger than normal registration plates, and Making filtering in traffic jams illegal, complete the picture.

    After many unsuccessful attempts to turn the situation around FFMC has decided to cut all communication channels with the French government and to take the streets instead.

    FFMC explains: "not all the users of two-, three- or four-wheel vehicles are criminals and they disapprove of being treated as if they were. They don't accept any longer that road safety figures are being manipulated and referred to out of context. They don't accept the growing criminalization of ordinary citizens and they don't accept any longer the neglect of the real causes threatening road users".

    http://www.fema-online.eu/index.php?...ions-in-france

    Coming to a town near you soon ish.
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    And, since Dec 6 201o in Ireland.

    Motorcyclists with learner permits are required to display L-plates on a yellow fluorescent high visibility tabard. (A tabard is a bib or sleeveless outer garment with open side-seams). The letter 'L' must be at least 15cm in height on a white background and must be to the front and rear of your torso. It is a criminal offence for learner motorcyclists not to display L plates.

    http://www.citizensinformation.ie/en...n_ireland.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by NONONO View Post
    And, since Dec 6 201o in Ireland.

    Motorcyclists with learner permits are required to display L-plates on a yellow fluorescent high visibility tabard. (A tabard is a bib or sleeveless outer garment with open side-seams). The letter 'L' must be at least 15cm in height on a white background and must be to the front and rear of your torso. It is a criminal offence for learner motorcyclists not to display L plates.

    http://www.citizensinformation.ie/en...n_ireland.html
    Criminal offence is a bit harsh but it overcomes the problem of where to attach the L-plate and how many broken L-plates do you see on NZ bikes? Those that bother with the hassle of attaching them that is. The vest would make for easier identification of the target

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swoop View Post
    The contrasting viewpoints you have happening.
    You ride a black bike.
    Yet wear a hi-viz vest to be "seen".
    If you want to be "seen" even more, paint the bike and deck yourself from head to toe in dayglo.

    A previous employer decked himself out in luminescence from head to toe (including reflective ankle bands, had flashing lights all over him.
    Guess what happened...
    Why are you so dogmatic?

    I haven't always had a black bike, but I have almost always worn a hi viz vest.

    I wear it so I have a little more chance of being seen, but I don't take it as a given that everyone will see me.

    End of story.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Steve View Post
    I ride like my life depends on it, and it does doesn't it.

    I was doing a defensive driving talk through as I rode to work yesterday, saying all the hazards to myself as I rode along. I found I couldn't speak fast enough to keep up with parked cars, side roads, painted markings on the road, changes in the road condition, other traffic.

    So I ride as safely as I can.

    But if wearing a fluoro vest increases my chances of survival by one millionth of one percent, then I wear one.

    All you others don't have to wear one if you don't want to, and I'd spew if it was even considered to make wearing them compulsory. To paraphrase Descartes (I think) ...

    "I disagree with your decision not to wear a fluoro vest, but defend to the death your right not to wear one."
    Well said young man
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    All you others don't have to wear one if you don't want to, and I'd spew if it was even considered to make wearing them compulsory. To paraphrase Descartes (I think) ...

    "I disagree with your decision not to wear a fluoro vest, but defend to the death your right not to wear one."[/QUOTE]

    Nah mate, I'm sure it was Emanuel Kant. In fact I remember saying "hey Manny, wocha fink of floorow vests mate"
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    I don't see the point in them.. I notice the headlights or the motorcycle's tail lights before the knob jockey wearing a fluoro vest

    I am invisible, and i expect every cunt to pull out in front of me.. because of this, i ride defensively

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    No offence to all those who wear them as life savers, but fuck hi-viz.

    Quote Originally Posted by Teflon View Post
    I am invisible, and i expect every cunt to pull out in front of me.. because of this, i ride defensively
    Exactly.

    And fuck hi-viz once again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Berries View Post
    And fuck hi-viz once again.
    Ok, I guess you mean you wouldnt wear the Yellow Hi Viz OR an orange high viz vests.

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    Quote Originally Posted by varminter View Post
    All you others don't have to wear one if you don't want to, and I'd spew if it was even considered to make wearing them compulsory. To paraphrase Descartes (I think) ...

    "I disagree with your decision not to wear a fluoro vest, but defend to the death your right not to wear one."
    Nah mate, I'm sure it was Emanuel Kant. In fact I remember saying "hey Manny, wocha fink of floorow vests mate"[/QUOTE]

    Nah, was Voltaire, rode an old Square 4. Think Kant must have had the quote in a pub quiz and thought he'd pinch it. Known for it Kant was.

    Voltie also said "It's dangerous to be right, when the government is wrong". Knew a thing or two Voltaire did.

    Anyway, don't think it will be too long before this for or against argument will just be academic. Floro vests and nice big L (front and back) will just be the law.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NONONO View Post
    Anyway, don't think it will be too long before this for or against argument will just be academic. Floro vests and nice big L (front and back) will just be the law.
    Theres going to be one Huuuuge problem if they make fluoro vests compulsory.
    Some clubs (and all gangs) are going to have some issues with it, which will give the poleece some problems. Would feel sorry for the cruiser brigade most of all - them guys with the leather vests and 19,000 rally badges attached.

    Wonder if theyd pin the badges to their fluoro vests?

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    Compulsory vest wearing is not (and never will be) an issue for those who ride motorbikes. Its mostly in the heads of a select few that picked up on a notion thrown out there a few months ago by someone.

    Its such a non issue that it relates, all to well, to a whole raft of motorcycle drama queen propaganda.

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