New Zealand bike prices WTF

[Brian d marge]

Just a reminder Commodities are market driven
percieved value isnt , neither on service or the above commodities

RT sells a premium service and product to a niche market, SparesRUs-usa.com is commodity driven and worlds apart

What I would be worrying about is a changing market, For example if the Chinese ( remember it was the Japanese ), if the Chinese brought out a product near to the equivalent price point and quality as Ohlins ( showa?) Roberts market dries up unless he can adapt

IMHO the motorcycle shop business model has changed ( dramatically?) I think its now an entertainment focused model and anyone with good customer focus that facilitates that ( customer able to enjoy his or her pride and Joy) will be ok

Stephen

[Brian d marge]

The whole importer/distributor/retailer model which made some sense 50 yrs ago, makes less sense nowadays because of the great advances in transport and communications.
Because we live on an island we have been held captive to this model for a bit longer than most but not any more.
Business' in NZ need to get with the program
Instead of bleating and whining, think about it, look outward instead of inward and take advantage of the opportunity.
ciao

agreed
Honestly doing business with NZ companies can be,,, um frustrating to say the least
( the good ones are worth their weight in gold)
Stephen

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I wouldn't go anywhere else and only a complete fool would risk their lives by scrimping on the required expertise.

It is not like buying a standard accessory, which is no more than commodity item.

I'd go to Norm Cobb at suspensiontech any day of the week over CKT, also an Ohlins distributer, highly knowledgeable and (point of difference), not a whinging Tory bastard.

[Robert Taylor]

I'd go to Norm Cobb at suspensiontech any day of the week over CKT, also an Ohlins distributer, highly knowledgeable and (point of difference), not a whinging Tory bastard.

Norm does do a very good job, good choice. He purchases his Ohlins suspension and rebuild parts off the official NZ distributor CKT. We in turn purchase bits and pieces off him because you reciprocate business with those who support you.
Take note that its the case in business terms worldwide that a distributor is a company that purchases directly off the manufacturer and is authorised to be the distributor for a country. Only one company in NZ can purchase direct off Ohlins racing AB Sweden.
Ask Norm what his political preference is, Ill give you a clue, theyre not red, pink, yellow or green.
Take note also that my posts are not whinging, Im just merely expressing what are the flipsides of widespread internet purchases, without recourse to getting all emotive or firing cheap shots.
As someone else said in all fairness he is having trouble understanding the ''rights and wrongs'' of overseas internet purchases. It is a conundrum, especially for many small businesses. As someone else also rightly said there are many companies that offer a product where there is no local distributor. Its a complex issue with some negative repercussions behind the thrill of purchase.
Certainly also I can understand the information at your fingertips and convenience factors. In my case I have bought the odd book off Amazon but I always check first that I can get it off a NZ retailer even if it costs more and takes a little more time to procure. Id rather support the employment security of Kiwi workers than some faceless Yank or Pom. And I make no apology for that, nor should I.
Irrespective, many businesses need to adapt or die and way too many employees need to get off their chuffs and show some interest other than collecting the weekly pay check.
Am I being condemned for expressing that I can see both sides of the story?

[PeeJay]

Well you would just be utterly ORGASMIC over Harley Davidson.

Because of the bleating whinging and whining from NZ, Aus, UK dealers, from 1 Aug US HD dealers will be VERBOTEN to sell online to non US customers.
NO accepting foreign creditcards
NO accepting foreign paypal payments
NO shipping to the various freight/mail forwarding companies
Hoggley Doggley owners will HAVE to buy their chrome from the AUTHORISED Dealers in their country. In the US they are even trying to stop interstate purchases.
A HD inspection at the Bombays to catch these criminial parasite Jaffas bringing parts back from Hamilton
Also mooted was the banning of parts sales to business' that werent a Harley dealership. They are still working on that one.

Business is business is business and kiwis, aussies and yanks wont let a little thing like this stop them.
Entrepreneurial minds will already be hard at work
Stick it to the Man!!

PS includes ebay

[Robert Taylor]

Well you would just be utterly ORGASMIC over Harley Davidson.

Because of the bleating whinging and whining from NZ, Aus, UK dealers, from 1 Aug US HD dealers will be VERBOTEN to sell online to non US customers.
NO accepting foreign creditcards
NO accepting foreign paypal payments
NO shipping to the various freight/mail forwarding companies
Hoggley Doggley owners will HAVE to buy their chrome from the AUTHORISED Dealers in their country. In the US they are even trying to stop interstate purchases.
A HD inspection at the Bombays to catch these criminial parasite Jaffas bringing parts back from Hamilton
Also mooted was the banning of parts sales to business' that werent a Harley dealership. They are still working on that one.

Business is business is business and kiwis, aussies and yanks wont let a little thing like this stop them.
Entrepreneurial minds will already be hard at work
Stick it to the Man!!

PS includes ebay

Well that/ those actions would be academic if the US dollar was significantly stronger than it is. Currency changes everything, including who purchasers ''bleat'' about.

[SS90]

Well you would just be utterly ORGASMIC over Harley Davidson.

Because of the bleating whinging and whining from NZ, Aus, UK dealers, from 1 Aug US HD dealers will be VERBOTEN to sell online to non US customers.
NO accepting foreign creditcards
NO accepting foreign paypal payments
NO shipping to the various freight/mail forwarding companies
Hoggley Doggley owners will HAVE to buy their chrome from the AUTHORISED Dealers in their country. In the US they are even trying to stop interstate purchases.
A HD inspection at the Bombays to catch these criminial parasite Jaffas bringing parts back from Hamilton
Also mooted was the banning of parts sales to business' that werent a Harley dealership. They are still working on that one.

Business is business is business and kiwis, aussies and yanks wont let a little thing like this stop them.
Entrepreneurial minds will already be hard at work
Stick it to the Man!!

PS includes ebay

How interesting that you take issue with such practices...

For years I have been dismayed at the amount of times I have seen "Dealer support" mean sweet F.A.

Brands (particularly H.D) put out the idea that "Authorised" means some type of exlusivity, but all the while letting more "opportunistic" dealers make sales in others areas.

I, for one, Applaud H.D in this move.... I hope others follow suit.

[PeeJay]

How interesting that you take issue with such practices...

For years I have been dismayed at the amount of times I have seen "Dealer support" mean sweet F.A.

Brands (particularly H.D) put out the idea that "Authorised" means some type of exlusivity, but all the while letting more "opportunistic" dealers make sales in others areas.

I, for one, Applaud H.D in this move.... I hope others follow suit.

Be careful what you wish for, it may come true
In the US HD also wish to restrict interstate sales.
Apply that here, Amps wont be allowed to take a phone order from someone in Thames because that area "belongs" to Road and Sport
And you want others to follow suit?
You want to be told what shop you are permitted to purchase from?
Pathetic

[Zamiam]

This is plain wrong. The only person that will get screwed is the consumer. I'm looking to buy some bits for my HD - still waiting a response from AMPS (nearly a week has gone by). Two US dealers responded overnight. One custom bike company from down south responded in a couple of hours, nothing non HD to suit and genuine HD part $NZ370 + courier. Ex USA around $NZ200 delivered to my door.

While I sympathise with NZ companies it is a global market. If HD follows this path which they appear to be as the usual crowd I deal with in the USA will no longer ship internationally they'll loose in the long run as they will push people to no-HD parts which are readily available and usually much cheaper

[imdying]

Because of the bleating whinging and whining from NZ, Aus, UK dealers, from 1 Aug US HD dealers will be VERBOTEN to sell online to non US customers.

Ahhh, just the angle into the market the Chinese need. You can bet they won't be stupid enough to put those sort of caveats over doing business on themselves. Basically, they're just not that stupid.

[SS90]

Apply that here, Amps wont be allowed to take a phone order from someone in Thames because that area "belongs" to Road and Sport

Considering the financial outlay it takes to be a H.D dealer, if I was one,I would welcome it, yes.

[SS90]

Ahhh, just the angle into the market the Chinese need. You can bet they won't be stupid enough to put those sort of caveats over doing business on themselves. Basically, they're just not that stupid.

On that note, and a wee aside, did anyone else notice that when the first quake hit Chch, while some governments donated millions, China donated $10,000...... makes you think twice about that umbrella eh?

[PeeJay]

Considering the financial outlay it takes to be a H.D dealer, if I was one,I would welcome it, yes.

If replacing customer service with coercion is your idea of how to run a retail business, not only would you welcome it, you would need it.

[Brian d marge]

I picked up a bike on the K rd , twas pretty reasonable

Stephen

[old git]

i'm a geek because i like the look of the new bmw g650gs

but why is it...........

uk price 4920 British pounds = 9 876.80196 New Zealand dollars

us price 7900 U.S. dollars = 9 687.3084 New Zealand dollars

jeff gray bmw christchurch price = 16228 New Zealand dollars

W.T.F

Send me the dosh in the uk where i am at present , and i box it up and send it back as scrap..........which under 100 bucks doesnt get caught by impory tax, and shipping costs will be about 1200 NZ for the boxes and take 5 weeks ish.

Sorted.............Easy

Old git