Could a "heavy" racer win?

[yod]

fuck me.

who knew cats were so knowledgeable!?

[Kickaha]

who knew cats were so knowledgeable!?

That would depend on whether the cat is dead or alive

[yod]

That would depend on whether the cat is dead or alive

oh don't even start.....

[schrodingers cat]

That would depend on whether the cat is dead or alive

Depends if the cat is trolling or not...

[racer40]

Dave Jefferies was a big bugger, & he won a heap of IOM TT races.

[SWERVE]

And a guy by the name of Chris Hannan from the UK held the world wheelie/speed record for a few yrs in the 90,s
He was over 20 stone (280lb) someone will do the kg conversion.
His motto... heavy rider.....more horsepower................. i know its a different type of bike /set up but the big guy was (and still is ) a legend.
If you search that name on the net it will un-earth some pics of him on his nitro harley top fuel bike...... he hasn,t been going to Jenny Craig recently either.

[javawocky]

I'm surprised Nick hasn't weighed in yet

[Crasherfromwayback]

Could pies be the new breakfast of champions?

Fur pies. And I'm a munching Champ.

[Robert Taylor]

Add in rider height as well.
A light rider will allow the bike to accelerate faster and will reach terminal speed sooner. The heavier rider will reach the same terminal speed , albeit a little later.
On a Superbike weight transfer to assist in the chassis attitude at any given point becomes more of an issue. This is where taller and slightly heavier riders arguably can have an advantage as they can move their weight around a lot more than a vertically disadvantaged rider. E.g moving their body backwards under braking, forward to help suppress wheelies off the turns etc.
Percentage of tyre slip etc is reasonably well documented on the net and in other forms. Tyre temperature is also another biggie and in fact its a HUGE issue here because we race so much in the winter months. When the temperatures ( ambient and track ) are in single digit to low two digit the bikes can often come off the track colder than when they entered the track straight off the tyre warmers. Personally I have been recording track and tyre temperatures a lot recently and when the track temperature drops the reduction in tyre temperature appears to be ''parabolic''
Many variables come into play, but its about getting temperature into the tyres and maintaining that as much as possible. That is the major preoccupation. How do you do that in winter months? Within sensible limits its often a combination of lower tyre pressures, firmer springing and / or firmer internal valving. All to make the tyre work harder and generate heat.

[neil_cb125t]

Well i can happily say im one of the more heavier guys out there - im 92kgs after a hard game of squash - add my riding gear, and a weekend on the booze and id hate to think!

This year ive gone back to my roots so to speak getting on a RG150 You'd think riding a street stock bike it might show?

Well i think in the dry its does make a difference, the guys that put in laps under the 1:29 at manfeild short on a RG150 never seem to be bigger than jockeys - weighing 60kgs or less.... Billy must be 60kg in gear wet!

BUT

Manfeild long VMCC round 2 the fat old bastard (me) started from the back of the grid or in pit lane could make it to front of the class in a few laps, in the RAIN. I think my weight is an advantage in the wet - don't know how technically, possibly the way i move on the bike (slowly!)gives me a better sense of grip in the wet. Or the weight is distrubted meaning the overall weight dist is more stable in the rain.

I know I've spent thousands ( and spending MORE ) on removing weight from my bike - it would be cheaper for me to be 60kgs.

[gixerracer]

Add in rider height as well.
A light rider will allow the bike to accelerate faster and will reach terminal speed sooner. The heavier rider will reach the same terminal speed , albeit a little later.
On a Superbike weight transfer to assist in the chassis attitude at any given point becomes more of an issue. This is where taller and slightly heavier riders arguably can have an advantage as they can move their weight around a lot more than a vertically disadvantaged rider. E.g moving their body backwards under braking, forward to help suppress wheelies off the turns etc.
Percentage of tyre slip etc is reasonably well documented on the net and in other forms. Tyre temperature is also another biggie and in fact its a HUGE issue here because we race so much in the winter months. When the temperatures ( ambient and track ) are in single digit to low two digit the bikes can often come off the track colder than when they entered the track straight off the tyre warmers. Personally I have been recording track and tyre temperatures a lot recently and when the track temperature drops the reduction in tyre temperature appears to be ''parabolic''
Many variables come into play, but its about getting temperature into the tyres and maintaining that as much as possible. That is the major preoccupation. How do you do that in winter months? Within sensible limits its often a combination of lower tyre pressures, firmer springing and / or firmer internal valving. All to make the tyre work harder and generate heat.

Shut up Robert you just wrecked another thread.

[roadracingoldfart]

Add in rider height as well.
A light rider will allow the bike to accelerate faster and will reach terminal speed sooner. The heavier rider will reach the same terminal speed , albeit a little later.
On a Superbike weight transfer to assist in the chassis attitude at any given point becomes more of an issue. This is where taller and slightly heavier riders arguably can have an advantage as they can move their weight around a lot more than a vertically disadvantaged rider. E.g moving their body backwards under braking, forward to help suppress wheelies off the turns etc.
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So # 21 should eat more pies than he does (like he used to) , # 56 needs to be streched and eat no more pies than presently consumed , #47 needs to eat more pies than # 21 & # 56 , and then all will be even ???? Is it really that simple Robert ?

[roadracingoldfart]

Well i can happily say im one of the more heavier guys out there - im 92kgs after a hard game of squash - add my riding gear, and a weekend on the booze and id hate to think!

Manfeild long VMCC round 2 the fat old bastard (me) started from the back of the grid or in pit lane could make it to front of the class in a few laps, in the RAIN. I think my weight is an advantage in the wet - don't know how technically, possibly the way i move on the bike (slowly!)gives me a better sense of grip in the wet. Or the weight is distrubted meaning the overall weight dist is more stable in the rain.

I know I've spent thousands ( and spending MORE ) on removing weight from my bike - it would be cheaper for me to be 60kgs.

Your just a fat bastard , you only wiegh what you do to push me around and you go so fast in the wet cause your a bloody idiot , Ohhh and as for the old bastard bit , bugger off . thats me.

Shut up Robert you just wrecked another thread.

Too close to home on the pie front Craig. ????

[pete376403]

Rossi weighs 59kgs - lack of weight doesn't seem to hold him back

[jaffaonajappa]

Rossi weighs 59kgs - lack of weight doesn't seem to hold him back

Hmmm.....recent races. 'Somethings' holding him back....
But yeah ok, its unlikely to suddenly be his weight thats slowed down the Dr.