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    Quote Originally Posted by Usarka View Post
    If god didn't want weed to be smoked he wouldn't have invented:

    a) weed

    b) mint chock chip ice cream

    c) movies

    d) sex
    Naaa mate ... God didn;t want us to smoke weed - that's why he gave us draft beer ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by FJRider View Post
    If they made it legal (dope) ... taxed it ... and toughened the laws regarding working/driving under the "influence" of it ...
    It's already illegal to drive under ther influence of THC ... just bloody hard to test for it on the road-side ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Banditbandit View Post
    It's already illegal to drive under ther influence of THC ... just bloody hard to test for it on the road-side ...
    Kronic doesn't have THC in it... that law doesn't apply?
    I didn't think!!! I experimented!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brett View Post
    Well to be totally correct, yes alcohol is better for you than pot...

    But yes, alcohol is not much of a better equivalent. The drinking culture in this country is pathetic and a real problem. Probably gonna get shot up for that statement too...
    Everyone owns their own body. As far as I'm concerned, if I choose to drink, smoke, eat KFC, snort coke and stick a syringe full of heroin between my toes then so long as I'm not harming anyone else (I don't fight or drive under the influence) and not forcing anyone else to pay for me (I get out their bed in the morning and go to work) then why the hell is it anyone else's business, never mind illegal?

    You know what they say, everything in moderation.

    Teach Kiwi's about moderation and being responsible for their actions regardless of whatever "influence" THEY CHOSE to be under and you'd have a lot less social problems in this country.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scracha View Post
    Everyone owns their own body. As far as I'm concerned, if I choose to drink, smoke, eat KFC, snort coke and stick a syringe full of heroin between my toes then so long as I'm not harming anyone else (I don't fight or drive under the influence) and not forcing anyone else to pay for me (I get out their bed in the morning and go to work) then why the hell is it anyone else's business, never mind illegal?

    You know what they say, everything in moderation.

    Teach Kiwi's about moderation and being responsible for their actions regardless of whatever "influence" THEY CHOSE to be under and you'd have a lot less social problems in this country.
    Because unfortunately these activities project negative externalities onto other members of society whether you like it or not. You personally may keep it a part of only your life, but many many thousands of people clearly cannot and it rips their lives apart as well as innocent bystanders. You barely have to keep in touch with the news to see the effects of people on drugs.
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    My good lord and pant wearing gimp buddy, why have I not seen this thread already? So much fun!!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brett View Post
    Well to be totally correct, yes alcohol is better for you than pot...
    Better in what way huh? My granny was a apothecary who administered cannabis to the sick. I dont remember booze on the shelf, though it has great medicinal value too, hence monks brewing grog. And in other parts of the world, religions using weed, all sorts of ethnobotanicals.

    And to be totally correct cannabis tincture was the #1 medicine for hundys of years.

    The probs in NZ with weed are the same culteral probs with booze, and junk food.

    Media, taxation and oligarchy is the tail that wags your dog, and Pavlov really knows how to make you drool, doesn't he?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mashman View Post
    Kronic doesn't have THC in it... that law doesn't apply?
    No it probably doesn't - but Peter Dunne is about to change all that ..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brett View Post
    You barely have to keep in touch with the news to see the effects of people on drugs.
    YES!!!! Hundreds of people in blue uniforms are having a devastating effect on drug crops all over the country ...
    "So if you meet me, have some sympathy, have some courtesy, have some taste ..."

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    Quote Originally Posted by scissorhands View Post
    Better in what way huh? My granny was a apothecary who administered cannabis to the sick. I dont remember booze on the shelf, though it has great medicinal value too, hence monks brewing grog. And in other parts of the world, religions using weed, all sorts of ethnobotanicals.

    And to be totally correct cannabis tincture was the #1 medicine for hundys of years.

    The probs in NZ with weed are the same culteral probs with booze, and junk food.

    Media, taxation and oligarchy is the tail that wags your dog, and Pavlov really knows how to make you drool, doesn't he?

    Good boy for defending your masters, now go chase a stick
    I am not even going to bother going here. Head vs brickwall scenario. You know what? Go smoke yourself stupid.
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    Over a relatively long life lived through periods where booze and drug fads have come and gone I cannot count the number of 'opinions' I've held or more to the point the number of sermons I've sat through on the rights and wrongs of both and how legalising this n that would make everything good...

    All said and done NOT ONE of the people who I've personally known who has defined their life with a substance or liquid has ever amounted to anything. I've watched them all fall by the way, crash bikes, wreck marriages and couse hurt and harm all around.

    If having the occasional drink (and I do mean occasional) is the only legal way to alter reality it is surely more than enough.

    If you have the energy - go solve the worlds REAL problems and stop inventing new ones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brett View Post
    I am not even going to bother going here. Head vs brickwall scenario. You know what? Go smoke yourself stupid.
    Have not had weed since Friday night. The last 3 weeks, I wait till after 9pm if I do

    But I suppose that sort of thing is unbelievable to you, huh?

    All stoners are obnoxious, useless people, huh?

    Who's the real anti social here, ruining NZ?

    I suppose you believe in an Arian ideal and that gays are sick? Who's attitude is causing the most harm? Why cant you accept others have different ways? You actively make worse for those unfortunates at the bottom of the ladder. Talk about unfair oppression

    The problems you see are not authentic to cannabis, booze or junk food...

    Guns dont kill people, people kill people.

    Trying to help the unfortunate people by taking away cannabis will do nothing for them. They will just turn to state sponsored, more harmful legal substances that are toxic and more damaging to their bodies and society.

    The cost to the state for diabetes, heart disease and such, would increase if cannabis was removed from NZ culture

    Then you can whine about their booze and junk food addictions ruining our country.

    Oral addictions are rampant in NZ, and you ignorant knee jerk statements do little to improve the lot of the neurodiverse and the downtrodden.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brett View Post
    You barely have to keep in touch with the news to see the effects of people on drugs and/or alcohol.
    There, fixed that for you. Alcohol is a legal poison, that taken in moderation can be quite enjoyable. However, when consumed in larger quantities it can cause a number of changes in human behaviour, mostly with a negative result on society. Examples include instances of drunk driving, physical assaults, sexual assaults, theft, damage to property - all issues NZ faces on a daily basis generated from alcohol. Prolonged excessive consumption can lead to obesity, liver failure, mental issues and other ill-effects.

    You can argue that drugs are bad for society all day long, and I'd mostly agree with you, but don't for one minute think alcohol isn't one of those drugs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brett
    Because unfortunately these activities project negative externalities onto other members of society whether you like it or not. You personally may keep it a part of only your life, but many many thousands of people clearly cannot and it rips their lives apart as well as innocent bystanders. You barely have to keep in touch with the news to see the effects of people on drugs.
    You're including alcohol in there too I assume?

    Quote Originally Posted by Banditbandit
    No it probably doesn't - but Peter Dunne is about to change all that ..
    He's gonna put some in ? heh, the guy outlined the problem on TV the other night. Because these drugs are synthetic, the manufacturer can change 1 component and the whole stop this stop that falls apart... they should just bite the bullet and legalise Cannabis... t'would help solve a whole raft of problems in one hit (pun intentded)... at least they can test for THC (not easily granted... but we didn't always have breathalisers)

    Quote Originally Posted by Paul in NZ
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    Quote Originally Posted by scissorhands View Post
    Trying to help the unfortunate people by taking away cannabis will do nothing for them. They will just turn to state sponsored, more harmful legal substances that are toxic and more damaging to their bodies and society.
    Like Champix
    I didn't think!!! I experimented!!!

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