Burqa

**Usarka** · 6th July 2011, 07:07

I smell an un-jumped on bandwagon.

I personally believe the burqa is a traditional item rather than a religious one (ever seen an indonesian islamic in a burqa?). But I'm self confesseed religiously ignorant.

It's all about tolerance people.

So, Brian Tamkai if you're reading this I challenge you to find a religious reason for males of your church to wear balaclavas in public. Let's see how long the feminists tolerate that.....

**wysper** · 6th July 2011, 07:28

That would actually be very interesting.

Especially if it happened NOW, as in the same time this current debate is at the front of peoples mind.

**Maha** · 6th July 2011, 07:32

I dont care, either way.
Its a non-issue (unless thay are made wear Hi-Viz Burqas)

**oneofsix** · 6th July 2011, 08:02

Originally Posted by Maha

I dont care, either way.
Its a non-issue (unless thay are made wear Hi-Viz Burqas)

Of course it is

so let the fun begin

You have to expect people to react to the way you dress. If you dress like an office worker people react to you like you are an office worker. Same if you dress like a construction worker. If you dress out of the norm for the society you are apart of then I suggest heading for your local hardware store, buying a bag of cement and harden the F u, cause people are going to react to you like you don't belong.

Originally Posted by Usarka

Burqa
I smell an un-jumped on bandwagon.

I personally believe the burqa is a traditional item rather than a religious one (ever seen an indonesian islamic in a burqa?). But I'm self confesseed religiously ignorant.

It's all about tolerance people.

So, Brian Tamkai if you're reading this I challenge you to find a religious reason for males of your church to wear balaclavas in public. Let's see how long the feminists tolerate that.....

The Burqa was originally traditional amongst a nomadic tribe but has been turned into a religious item, like the head scarfs some Christian woman wear, neither has a basis in the original religious teachings. Ok some use the tenuous justification of modesty which both quoted religions do refer to but modesty, which is all that is required, evolves and has never been about totally hiding.

Yeah good luck with the balaclava thing. I heard of a guy getting arrested for wear a motorcycle helmet walking down a shopping street.

**Paul in NZ** · 6th July 2011, 08:06

The whole thing is a bloody stupid beat up. 2 dumb as fuck bus drivers act like arses (I'm sorry - but we all know what some akl bus drivers are like) and the whole place stops and the Saudi Consulate General writes to the govt?

FFS. Go ANYWHERE in Saudi and european women are required to meet some pretty strict local laws and customs and are faced with 'difficulties every day. And this is one of the good countries in the region?

Now Muslim women are worried they might not get jobs here because of the way they dress? Well duh! Theres a lot of jobs I wouldnt get because of the way I dress and look too ffs... Its called reality!

Sigh...

**Indiana_Jones** · 6th July 2011, 08:07

Originally Posted by oneofsix

Yeah good luck with the balaclava thing. I heard of a guy getting arrested for wear a motorcycle helmet walking down a shopping street.

This is the issue I have with it. I can't walk into a bank with a bike lid on, but if a camel jockey wears their tent that's fine?

-Indy

**oneofsix** · 6th July 2011, 08:11

Originally Posted by Indiana_Jones

This is the issue I have with it. I can't walk into a bank with a bike lid on, but if a camel jockey wears their tent that's fine?

-Indy

Is it? I often wondered about that, and its more than banks. I suspect these chicks are some dominated by their religion that they probably aren't allowed their own bank accounts anyhow.

**Sable** · 6th July 2011, 08:16

They're illegal in France, where it is not an example of intolerance so much as secularism. You're not allowed to wear religious symbols at public schools or in government jobs, not even a cross. And I agree with this. Fuck traditional being a good enough reason for anything, they're just devices for opressing women.

**oneofsix** · 6th July 2011, 08:16

Originally Posted by Paul in NZ

The whole thing is a bloody stupid beat up. 2 dumb as fuck bus drivers act like arses (I'm sorry - but we all know what some akl bus drivers are like) and the whole place stops and the Saudi Consulate General writes to the govt?

FFS. Go ANYWHERE in Saudi and european women are required to meet some pretty strict local laws and customs and are faced with 'difficulties every day. And this is one of the good countries in the region?

Now Muslim women are worried they might not get jobs here because of the way they dress? Well duh! Theres a lot of jobs I wouldnt get because of the way I dress and look too ffs... Its called reality!

Sigh...

just read that article Paul. They seem to have a funny idea of corporate NZ

"I know I'm going to have a hard time just being in my veil and applying to a corporate role ... I can't wait to work but sometimes I'm worried how I'm going to fit into a corporate environment where I'm not wearing a miniskirt."

I wish they all wore mini skirts

One of the amusing sights I've seen around town, and it might have been one of the woman quoted, was a chick in the head scarf, hijab, thing but very sexy nice looking legs encased in tight jeans encrusted with bling. Hmmm modest I wonder

**Paul in NZ** · 6th July 2011, 08:19

Originally Posted by oneofsix

just read that article Paul. They seem to have a funny idea of corporate NZ :

Ha.... They wear 8 acres of cloth wrapped around themselves - corporate NZ aint the ONLY funny idea they have...

But for that matter - corporate NZ has a few funny ideas too...

**Maha** · 6th July 2011, 08:24

Originally Posted by oneofsix

Of course it is

so let the fun begin

Anything/subject only becomes an issue if you allow it...frankly, this Burqa thing does not bother me at all.

If i wanna walk down the road or into a shop wearing Supreman undies pulled over neon green tights then I will do it and fuck what any member of the public thinks of me for doing so.
If the sight of someone upsets you to the point of being a arse about it, you need to step back at take a longer look at yourself.
This is a real case of...people caring what other people think when most will say that they dont.

**Paul in NZ** · 6th July 2011, 08:37

I went for a run last night wearing tights, a skin tight thermal top and a rain jacket, cap with torch thingy and a giant belt with bottles n shit to last a thirsty athelete 4 months crossing the sahara....

If I was a bus driver I wouldnt have picked me up....

**Maha** · 6th July 2011, 08:42

Originally Posted by Paul in NZ

I went for a run last night wearing tights, a skin tight thermal top and a rain jacket, cap with torch thingy and a giant belt with bottles n shit to last a thirsty athelete 4 months crossing the sahara....

If I was a bus driver I wouldnt have picked me up....

........cos' clearly you had no visable place for cash Paul...

**george formby** · 6th July 2011, 10:16

Meh, an incident on the box last night from Austarlia detailed a court case where a Burqa wearing woman had been pulled over by the feds, she accused the officer of ripping off her Burqa but the dash cam in his car showed otherwise. She was prosecuted for giving false evidence BUT the case was thrown out because they had no idea who was in the Burqa, either in court or at the time of the offence.

This for me is where the law has to out weigh any religious or traditional protocols. If people need to be identified, in banks, on video in buses or for legal reasons then it is a black & white case of get them off. No argument whatsoever IMHO.