Leaky buildings. Thinking of buying a post '95 home? Own one?

[Swoop]

If you are thinking about buying a house that has been built after 1995 OR if you own one, this documentary is well worth worth watching.

http://tvnz.co.nz/a-rotten-shame/s1-e1-video-4288887

There has not been any form of resolution to this issue and homeowners face even more uncertainty to protect their largest asset.


Also. If you are having repair work done DO NOT touch "Linea" weatherboards from James Hardie. This is another product that will be in the news...
If you want weatherboards on your house, use real timber.

[Maha]

...Linea weatherboards will warp in certain temps right?
Its happening to a few houses at Omaha beach.

Same with Bamboo flooring...our humidity here is just to tough for it, even the importers of the product will tell you that.

[Swoop]

...Linea weatherboards will warp in certain temps right?

Warping? Not the major part of the problem, but certainly not helping the issue.

[mashman]

Also. If you are having repair work done DO NOT touch "Linea" weatherboards from James Hardie. This is another product that will be in the news...
If you want weatherboards on your house, use real timber.

Do tell more? As far as I've been told that's mainly due to the colour and quality of the paint (we are having issues with plain ole weatherboard sapping, warping, shrinking and may have to replace the cladding on a 1 year old house )

Saw the tail end of that las night. Fuckin pathetic!... both builders and
govt

[merv]

Warping? Not the major part of the problem, but certainly not helping the issue.

So tell us what is the problem with Linea?

[oneofsix]

So tell us what is the problem with Linea?

from Jamies Hardie web page;

http://www.jameshardie.co.nz/product/Linea-Weatherboard?i=4][/url]
Resistant to fire and damage from moisture and rotting when installed and maintained correctly

- wasn't that the issue with most of the James Hardie stuff around leaky homes, it is virtually impossible to install and maintain it correctly.

[Latte]

Do tell more? As far as I've been told that's mainly due to the colour and quality of the paint (we are having issues with plain ole weatherboard sapping, warping, shrinking and may have to replace the cladding on a 1 year old house )

Saw the tail end of that las night. Fuckin pathetic!... both builders and
govt

Got a 60's/70's weatherboard house and have been told to stay away from Dark Colour paints as the heat will warp the timber (bigger change from hot to cold etc). is this what you are having problems with?

[Swoop]

As far as I've been told that's mainly due to the colour and quality of the paint (we are having issues with plain ole weatherboard sapping, warping, shrinking and may have to replace the cladding on a 1 year old house

The Linea stuff has "issues". Delamination being the primary one. This has been kept very quiet. Ingress of moisture is a bastard as the composition of the product allows this.
Some installers are disregarding the back of the product, yet coating this area is vital, also the joins have to be done exactly perfect. Anything less =
The manufacturer of the main product involved with monolithic claddings (& leaky homes) has created these weatherboards as a solution to their first fuck-up.


Timber weatherboards and timber framing.
The industry needs to address this issue at source. The pine grown here has been genetically modified to grow much faster than normal. The simple reason is $$$'s.
What we are being sold is extremely soft and weak compared to normal. Just look at the growth rings and ask yourself why they grow so fast.

[jaffaonajappa]

If you are thinking about buying a house that has been built after 1995 OR if you own one, this documentary is well worth worth watching.

http://tvnz.co.nz/a-rotten-shame/s1-e1-video-4288887

That was a very interesting Doco, thank you.
Im assuming it was made before the Sep EQ, and even then Bob Parker comes across as one very cool customer.

Can you see this country going broke quite soon?

[JimO]

what you want in a house is a wide soffit, no parapets especially parapets with no cap flashings, the Mediterranean look might be fine in spain where ist 35 degrees all the time and if it rains it pisses down for a hour and is dry in 10 minutes plus most of those houses will be concrete not timber framed with a 20mm coating on them

[Ocean1]

What we are being sold is extremely soft and weak compared to normal. Just look at the growth rings and ask yourself why they grow so fast.

If "normal" is north American pine then yes, ours is less dense, and yes that's related to the fact that it grows in half the time. I'm not sure that's anything to do with "genetic modification", I assumed it was the same reason many other things grow much faster here than in their colder, darker homelands.

When we first started selling pine to the Japanese they had to review their building standards as related to that material. Simple really, it might be lighter but if you use larger sections it's as good as it's northern counterpart or better.

The James Hardy thing I agree with. They once introduced what amounted to MDF, (customwood) planks as a cladding material. Guess what...


Gwarne, guess.

[JimO]

The James Hardy thing I agree with. They once introduced what amounted to MDF, (customwood) planks as a cladding material. Guess what...


Gwarne, guess.

that was produced by Forrest Products, dont think Hardies had anything to do with that

[Ocean1]

that was produced by Forrest Products, dont think Hardies had anything to do with that

I stand... (sit) corrected.

Be difficult to over-blame James Hardie though.

[YellowDog]

I'm no expert at this, but my house is a 1970s concrete bock base with the upper floor being hardie plank boards. They are very good indeed. No warping at all.

The house has an oversized overhangind eves all around, which may help protect the boards.

I thought it was the HardieTex plaster stuff that was the problem. It doesn't let any air through and it cracks, leaking water through and rotting the wood supporting the structure.

I have a friend whoose son has just built one of those egg box type plaster houses

[porky]

If "normal" is north American pine then yes, ours is less dense, and yes that's related to the fact that it grows in half the time. I'm not sure that's anything to do with "genetic modification", I assumed it was the same reason many other things grow much faster here than in their colder, darker homelands.

When we first started selling pine to the Japanese they had to review their building standards as related to that material. Simple really, it might be lighter but if you use larger sections it's as good as it's northern counterpart or better.

The James Hardy thing I agree with. They once introduced what amounted to MDF, (customwood) planks as a cladding material. Guess what...

Gwarne, guess.

Selective breeding, choose the fastest straightest trees and axe the rest. (GF number)
All species vary in density and by location. Pine (radiata) varies considerably from Invagiggle to the Far north. Gissy has some of the better MOE. Its the MOE that the industry uses as the main benchmark.
Japan was set up for hardwoods and the concept that softwoods could have the density and durability for JAS accreditation was out left field. Water under the bridge now. Biggest prob is humidity and machining to NZ EMC only for it to grow on the boat
I think the product you are refering to was Weatherside, it in fact was a oil tempered hardboard .... same shit as seratone.. used in bath rooms and just like at the base of the shower, the stuff falls apart. The new crap is called silver seal. Oh the power of marketing. And unlike JH these guys paid out for houses to be reclad.