Bears' compliance?

[RobGassit]

BEARS Baby Yeah!!

[Hinny]

Cool, .....my jap powered Bimota ..... :-)

Very Cool.
You lucky man.

[TonyB]

Hey guys, would a KTM 525 motard be any good in bears?

They're a great BEARS bike! Heaps of them racing down here.

Back to the original question- no I don't believe the Chch BEARS club will allow an RS250 to race because the engine is of asian design. I'm pretty sure its been tried before, but if you really want to know I can put you in touch with the Vice Pres of the club down here.

As someone pointed out, its nothing more than a formula based racing series- no different from Classics/ Post Cassics/ Pre 89. It was started way back when no European/British/American bike was capable of mixing it with the sports bikes produced by "the Big Four" (who all just happened to be based in Japan). Some people like riding BEARS type bikes, just like some prefer pre 82, so they created a formula that allowed them to have competitive racing on machines that couldn't compete with the modern sports bikes of the time.

BEARS is still a valid class- until Sloan Frost threw his leg over a BMW, nothing other than GSXR's and the odd R1 had been anywhere near the front of the NZ Superbike Nats for years. 675's have dominated BEARS F1 for some time now, but I can't recall seeing one near the front in Supersport even at club level.

In short its just a formula that allows close and competitive racing- where else can you race a 2 valve air cooled Ducati and have a chance of winning? If people want to imagine a bunch of fat hairy tatooed neo-nazi's with a hatred of all things Asian, then thats their perogative, but I suggest they actually take a LOOK at a meeting and MEET some of the people involved before casting judgement.

[TonyB]

Bear compliance?

FB teaches you all kinds of stuff you didn't want to know....

I once wanted a picture of one of the characters from the old "Hill Billy Bears" cartoon.
So I typed "Pa Bear" into google.
Safe search just happened to be off.
I cannot unsee what I saw...even thumbnails can be disturbing...

[Dreama]

They're a great BEARS bike! Heaps of them racing down here.

Back to the original question- no I don't believe the Chch BEARS club will allow an RS250 to race because the engine is of asian design. I'm pretty sure its been tried before, but if you really want to know I can put you in touch with the Vice Pres of the club down here.

As someone pointed out, its nothing more than a formula based racing series- no different from Classics/ Post Cassics/ Pre 89. It was started way back when no European/British/American bike was capable of mixing it with the sports bikes produced by "the Big Four" (who all just happened to be based in Japan). Some people like riding BEARS type bikes, just like some prefer pre 82, so they created a formula that allowed them to have competitive racing on machines that couldn't compete with the modern sports bikes of the time.

BEARS is still a valid class- until Sloan Frost threw his leg over a BMW, nothing other than GSXR's and the odd R1 had been anywhere near the front of the NZ Superbike Nats for years. 675's have dominated BEARS F1 for some time now, but I can't recall seeing one near the front in Supersport even at club level.

In short its just a formula that allows close and competitive racing- where else can you race a 2 valve air cooled Ducati and have a chance of winning? If people want to imagine a bunch of fat hairy tatooed neo-nazi's with a hatred of all things Asian, then thats their perogative, but I suggest they actually take a LOOK at a meeting and MEET some of the people involved before casting judgement.

Well said.
The SOT is a great meeting where alot of very passionate people race bikes they spend squillions of hours building. Many of the bikes are simply a labour of love but not the fastest things on two wheels but that's not the point.
BEARs racing, in particular the SOT, is unique. The 'others' can rant and rave and say what they like, but unless they have that intrinsic BEARs thingy infecting them, they will not understand that point.
Having raced ( averagely) at lots of ordinary club rounds I personnaly consider the SOT to be the benchmark ... the best racing (for me and my bike), the most track time on my favourite track, the cheapest to enter and hire the excellant pit garages ( which add to the atmosphere with no walls) and having the bar adjacant to the pits makes it easy and pleasant to have a beer and the presentations afterwards in the company of like minded people.
It's not a conspiracy ... just a bunch of guys racing their choice of bikes.

[codgyoleracer]

Well said.
The SOT is a great meeting where alot of very passionate people race bikes they spend squillions of hours building. Many of the bikes are simply a labour of love but not the fastest things on two wheels but that's not the point.
BEARs racing, in particular the SOT, is unique. The 'others' can rant and rave and say what they like, but unless they have that intrinsic BEARs thingy infecting them, they will not understand that point.
Having raced ( averagely) at lots of ordinary club rounds I personnaly consider the SOT to be the benchmark ... the best racing (for me and my bike), the most track time on my favourite track, the cheapest to enter and hire the excellant pit garages ( which add to the atmosphere with no walls) and having the bar adjacant to the pits makes it easy and pleasant to have a beer and the presentations afterwards in the company of like minded people.
It's not a conspiracy ... just a bunch of guys racing their choice of bikes.

For sure its a great concept & and is much about being nostalgic and or tinkering as anything else.
I was just suprised to read that an Aprilia RS250 machine, designed, assembled and with almost all parts manufactured in a 'bears' country cannot race ? - which is why i made a point of highlighting triumphs Taiwanese made & assembled motors etc.

it seems that its the badge on the tank that counts ?, so that would open the door to the RS ?

Glen

[CHOPPA]

For sure its a great concept & and is much about being nostalgic and or tinkering as anything else.
I was just suprised to read that an Aprilia RS250 machine, designed, assembled and with almost all parts manufactured in a 'bears' country cannot race ? - which is why i made a point of highlighting triumphs Taiwanese made & assembled motors etc.

it seems that its the badge on the tank that counts ?, so that would open the door to the RS ?

Glen

There was a similar scenario with Melcolm Bells NCR I believe? They were trying to say that the frame was Japanese or something and wouldnt let him race...

Im sure there was an RS125 Racing at wanganui in BEARS

Great class!! There should be a BEARS class at every meeting hahaha

[Billy]

Quite a few Eurotrash motards racing down here, might be different up your way

So do the motards that race in the bears class down south have to run clip on's???

Are they allowed to stick their leg out and back it in????Anybody watched a MotoGP race lately?Fucken lot of motard riders out there now LOL

[racefactory]

Lmao. Wasn't it Rossi that started it after competing in motards that time? I don't see them banning it any time soon...

[CHOPPA]

Lmao. Wasn't it Rossi that started it after competing in motards that time? I don't see them banning it any time soon...

Na the leg out rule is crazy, more and more riders are doing it, even in NZ I have seen a few top riders in Superbike and 600 doing it. I cant remember exactly which corner at Ruapuna it was but I did it sorta by mistake and it actually felt good

[RobGassit]

BEARS Racer baby Yeah!

[Billy]

BEARS Racer baby Yeah!

Ah yes,The "proper" Glen Williams on the Anglo Duke,Brings back some memories

[RobGassit]

How about this guy then? Bears Master!

[Kickaha]

Are they allowed to stick their leg out and back it in????Anybody watched a MotoGP race lately?Fucken lot of motard riders out there now LOL

BEARs put a stop to the foot out thing fairly early on when Motards starting turning up

[TonyB]

So do the motards that race in the bears class down south have to run clip on's???

Are they allowed to stick their leg out and back it in????Anybody watched a MotoGP race lately?Fucken lot of motard riders out there now LOL

Nope, no clip on's required, but they are supposed to keep their feet on the pegs. I agree the feet on pegs rule is probably outdated. But then I struggle to understand how Rossi's habit of hanging your inside leg out in the breeze can help when braking, when you already have your bum halfway off the seat in preparation for the next corner and having an inside leg on the peg helps hold the weight..

This years winter series has a hot 750SS and about 3 very quick motards up the front in F2 and Super Stock Ltd. Motards go bloody well on a tight track like Ruapuna, and the new ones simply slaughter my 750 under acceleration to the first corner. Quick they is!