Bike sale unease

[Zadkiel]

Yep, I'm with the others. Unless your selling a bike that is super rare, or for $10k less than you should be, why would anyone from Malaysia feel the need to buy a bike of someone in NZ? Just odd, and not worth the hassle.

[Spearfish]

Tell him congratulations he won a competition to be the 100th buyer of a bike this month, to get his million dollars all he has to do is send the money for the bike and shipping plus a further 30% for the legal fees to release the million dollars to a non New Zealand resident.

[Laava]

if you wanted to be totally safe, use paypal. They would send the money to you through paypal's system without knowing your bank account number.

Totally wrong sorry! Paypal is exactly what they tried to use to scam me. Unless you can log into your bank account and see the money and then re-check in 24hrs, then it is a scam. But this deal is so obviously a scam.

[YellowDog]

You should have ran a Poll on this, just to see if there are any complete mugs left out there

[The End]

The only way you could get away with using PayPal would be to have them say something like "I am paying for goods that I have already received in person. There was no shipping information, because I picked up the item locally. I am happy with my transaction and am now paying for something I owe. I give up my right to chargeback since I have already received the goods"

Even then, I wouldn't recommend it...

[Grasshopperus]

Paypal is commonly used by scammers because it's bloody easy to use with anonymity.

It's a shit way to receive payment though because paypal will always reverse a payment (to you, the seller) at the the drop of a hat if;

• the credit card used by the buyer is stolen or fraudulent
• the buyer complains that the goods were not received (or not received in the expected condition)
• if paypal themselves suspect the transaction is dodgy/illegal in nature
• or paypal just decide not to pass on payment (see what happened to wikileaks)

Paypal pride themselves on having terrible customer service and their loyalty is to whoever is actually sending money using their system. So, credit companies get the most say, then the buyer, then the seller.

Friends don't let friends use paypal.

Western Union on the other hand is real good, they never reverse anything. Just make sure you actually receive the cash in your hand before sending the goods. There are heaps of money-order form generators on the internet that they send you to make you believe that they have sent the money.

[marty]

sounds totally legit to me. Google the malaysian guy's email address and see what you come up with.

[roy.nz]

Almost got done by the same thing, they make an exact copy of the pay pal page and then you are fucked. ITS A SCAM.

[Snails pace]

Thanks guys. You have confirmed what I expected. Bike will have to sit in the shed a bit longer.

[Berries]

Look at it this way, you want rid of the bike anyway don't you ?

Just think of it as an expensive lesson if you even think this is close to being legit. Think it through. And whatever you do, as the post above says, do not believe any links that the guy sends you.

If it was me I would tag along for a bit and wind the guy up for a laugh. See if he'll throw in a shrunken skull or his sister.

[schrodingers cat]

About a likely as finding a factory 4-into-1 and Yoshi can for a pan-head Harley...

Amazing what you learn on KB.
I never realised Yohsi made parts for lost causes...

[White trash]

The paypal one's a common one. They'll ask for your paypal details, then tell you they'll paypal the asking price and sort out the shipping themselves. You'll get a seemingly legit email from a paypal email address saying that such and such is the shipping co, confirming that they've received eg. $12000 for the bike and $800 shipping fees. Could you please refund the $800 shipping to bank acc # xyz and they'll begin transport proceedings.

Get a couple of those a week here. Always gets a giggle.

[Usarka]

There is fuck all the cunts can do with your bank account details (but I wouldn't want to tempt fate if unsure). Most likely is they'll follow up with some dodgy request or put some money in to give you confidence then try to ream your ringpiece until it prolapses.

Jeremy Clarkson published his bank account details saying the same thing as a challenge. Funny thing was there was a law in the UK allowing unauthorised withdrawals up to 500 quid direct to charities and he ended up donating Diabetes UK

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/7174760.stm

[SILVER SUZI]

So after all of that you didn't tell us what the bike is, how much you want, or attach atradme link....................... Think you missed out on a great marketing opportunity there bud.
I still can't believe you thought this might be a genuine offer, but at least you had the sense to ask for other peoples opinions, and god knows KB is the place to go for getting other folks opinions.

[Jonathan]

Andrew needs to ship my 1988 250cc bike to Malaysia urgently - maybe there is a shortage? How should I reply to his e-mail?

Hello,
Thanks for the swift reply, there is no doubt about it, i like the
bike and I am pleased with the price but I want you to get back to me
with the pictures and all dents on the bike if there are any because i
am not local. I am presently in Malaysia on business and could not
come over to check it out,but no worries as i am willing to handle the
pick up of this bike through a legitimate shipping agent that has
their headquarter situated here in Malaysia, it will be picked up
after payment, so i really need to know the mode of payment
so that we can proceed thereafter cos i really need this bike urgently.

I'd like to know certain things too

Does the bike have any mechanical disabilities presently?
What is your reason for selling it?
I'm sorry, just want to be sure about the sale before i proceed.

Andrew