What's happened to the Winter Series?

**Rcktfsh** · 17th July 2011, 09:47

Where are all the bike this year? Vic club seem to be doing there normal great job and great to have the internet coverage (not that many people seem to use it according to the stats when watching the live feed had 26 viewers allday) but the fields are pathetic. Take F1 for example qualifying was
1st. Cole 1.10.9
2nd. Frost 1.11.9
3rd. Holmes 1.12.1
4th. McCarroll 1.16.5
5th. Carrol 1.16.8

Six seconds between 1st & 5th!
Fastest postie would have placed 4th on the grid as their time was a 1.15.9 (track being dry but cold for both sessions) and were talking a 50 yr old overweight cheese eating dutchman here with dubious personal habits on a 22 yr old overweight stock (bar Ohlins shock) bike that admittidly looks in marginally better condition than its owner.

I can appreciate that last years run of shocking weather may have put some riders off this years winter series but so far its been pretty good, maybe i'm just being pessimistic and everyones saving their $'s for the summer racing...I hope so.

**CHOPPA** · 17th July 2011, 10:03

Yeah I think everyone is just sick of riding in the rain. The vic club have really stepped up and they ran a bloody good day yesterday.

Track temp for our first practice was 0.1 deg

**CHOPPA** · 17th July 2011, 10:12

Originally Posted by Rcktfsh

Fastest postie would have placed 4th on the grid as their time was a 1.15.9 (track being dry but cold for both sessions) and were talking a 50 yr old overweight cheese eating dutchman here with dubious personal habits on a 22 yr old overweight stock (bar Ohlins shock) bike that admittidly looks in marginally better condition than its owner.

Looking at the whole day his time wouldnt would have only got him 13th in F1, 8 seconds off the pace. (as expected) F1 had the first practice I think common sense prevailed

**Rcktfsh** · 17th July 2011, 10:23

On race finishing times he would have finished 6th in r1, 9th in r2 & 6th in r3 and to be fair those times were with no competition in the posties races which had even bigger gaps r1 winning margin being 18 secs, r2 25 secs & r3 20 secs. I'm not just picking on f1 chop across the classes things are dire.

**Robert Taylor** · 17th July 2011, 10:47

Originally Posted by Rcktfsh

On race finishing times he would have finished 6th in r1, 9th in r2 & 6th in r3 and to be fair those times were with no competition in the posties races which had even bigger gaps r1 winning margin being 18 secs, r2 25 secs & r3 20 secs. I'm not just picking on f1 chop across the classes things are dire.

I think Shane that its also got a little bit to do with the economic situation. Riders appear on Friday to ride around but dont turn up on the Saturday because its a lot of money for not so much racing / so few laps, seen that more than a wee bit.

Just maybe also some competitors are looking more towards the Tri Series?

For testing with the National level riders ( I was helping Chop and Nick ) you can only do so much as the track temp is so low it doesnt ''load'' the bikes. As the track temperature falls tyre temperature falls parabolically. I have been constantly monitoring track and tyre temps and are very clearly seeing this correlation.

**Rcktfsh** · 17th July 2011, 10:51

Haven't I warned you about that thinking carry on before Wobert, it'll do you know good you know. Apparently Paulas being pawning his body around the street corners of South Auckland & saved eneogh dosh for a shock so you should be hearing from him soon if you haven't already.

**Robert Taylor** · 17th July 2011, 10:55

Originally Posted by Rcktfsh

Haven't I warned you about that thinking carry on before Wobert, it'll do you know good you know. Apparently Paulas being pawning his body around the street corners of South Auckland & saved eneogh dosh for a shock so you should be hearing from him soon if you haven't already.

Ill leave the thinking to you barristers and your theatrical courtroom antics representing the guilty as sin!

**Tony.OK** · 17th July 2011, 10:59

Originally Posted by Robert Taylor

Riders appear on Friday to ride around but dont turn up on the Saturday because its a lot of money for not so much racing / so few laps, seen that more than a wee bit.

For me at the moment that is the case....also its nice to have a stressless day just having fun on the bike.
$100 for 5-6 20 min sessions on Fri = near 100 laps
$140odd for raceday, 3 races + qual = 22 laps

Yeah I'm soft now, I haven't got wets or spares so no pressure days suit me fine just now............

Was chatting with Spud about the 4 lap qual sessions and for guys to turn up after a month or 2 off the bike and have to re settle into pace on a cold track in 4 laps just ain't gonna give ya fast qualifying times if the Fri test day wasn't done prior.
Thats my take on things at the mo......

**Shaun** · 17th July 2011, 11:02

The problem is my fault, there is NO WANKERS there for any one to abuse, perhaps I best get there to help out and give them some one to abuse eh

**Pussy** · 17th July 2011, 13:23

Originally Posted by Rcktfsh

Where are all the bike this year?

Next time I'm spectating at a Vic club round, I'll lift you up to the top of the wall so you can actually SEE what's on the track.....

**Robert Taylor** · 17th July 2011, 13:59

Originally Posted by Pussy

Next time I'm spectating at a Vic club round, I'll lift you up to the top of the wall so you can actually SEE what's on the track.....

What youll adopt a dwarf for a day? Will you also get to play that Randy Newman record?

**Pussy** · 17th July 2011, 14:05

Originally Posted by Robert Taylor

What youll adopt a dwarf for a day? Will you also get to play that Randy Newman record?

I still reckon that Shayne should do the decent thing, and make himself available for dwarf throwing competitions....

**Shaun** · 17th July 2011, 14:43

Originally Posted by Pussy

I still reckon that Shayne should do the decent thing, and make himself available for dwarf throwing competitions....

you would need some mussels to take part in that, not just Lard

**Robert Taylor** · 17th July 2011, 15:59

Shellfish???????

**SWERVE** · 17th July 2011, 17:31

Just to rub it in a bit from down south................
Yesterday was Rd 1 of King Of Levels winter series we had
A glorious sunny day max temp hit 14 deg

110 entries with all classes well represented - even a field of sidecars

Lots of new faces in clubmans

The Ambo didnt move all day

And some early signs of good times by some..........

Go the south & MCC