Rossi is a coming

[wysper]

I can see it all ending in tears.

Sadly, I think this is the truth.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Sadly, I think this is the truth.

I reckon it just goes to show how much he relies on Jerry too. Jerry and Stoner combo would be interesting.

[Shaun]

I reckon it just goes to show how much he relies on Jerry too. Jerry and Stoner combo would be interesting.

yes, but we will never see that

[BMWST?]

yes, but we will never see that

never a very big word matey.....

[Shaun]

never a very big word matey.....

sure is, but he is at home with his wife now due to cancer issues, and I am very sure he will want to be staying at home for as long as he can in the future to be with her before they both die in years to come. He has been on the road for many many many years

[pritch]

but Rossi is one rider I would never write off untill he retires

Was going to give yer bling, but gotta share the love...

Rossi has never been under the sort of pressure he is experiencing now, but there are few external signs.

Likewise Ducati must be feeling the heat, even if that heat isn't because the Italian fans have set fire to the factory... Yet!

If Ducati can give him a competitive bike Rossi'll be up there.

There may be marketing considerations that dictate the use of a carbon frame but they'd better just worry about designing a competitive bike. Having a carbon framed bike at the back of the grid won't sell road bikes.

[RobGassit]

Rossi needs a HYOSUNG!

[Crasherfromwayback]

Rossi has never been under the sort of pressure he is experiencing now, but there are few external signs.

If Ducati can give him a competitive bike Rossi'll be up there.

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You think I'm blind mate? Rossi was under pressure from Hayden in '06', it went down to the wire. Rossi binned it. Pressure.

And "If Ducati can give him a competitive bike?"

He's having trouble beating the other Ducati riders, some of them on satelite bikes...on a bike that's won a shitload of races. You stated that I'm anti Rossi...but I'm far from it. But you Rossi fans are failing to see what's actually going on.

He's fucking lucky to be where he is in the championship points wise, he's failing miserably to develop the bike everyone thinks Stoner fucked (yet won on), and he's riding like a fucking pussy.

Well...as much of a pussy as a nine time world champ can be anyway...

[gav]

Yep, exactly Pete! Stoner won on the carbon framed bike last year, its not a completely new bike. Stoner won 3 of the last 6 races last year. Any changes made have been at the insistence of Rossi/Burgess, and clearly they have got it wrong.
Seems we might see Rossi starting from the last row quite a bit for the rest of the season? Why? Well, if they switch back to the old chassis instead of this current one, he runs out of his allocation of engines, and if he takes extra ones he will be forced to start from the back of the grid. If he can get the bike working well, then he could still win from there, but it seems that is a long way from happening at the moment.

[wysper]

But you Rossi fans are failing to see what's actually going on.

I can see what is going on. It is just not nice to watch. I am a huge Rossi fan. Wouldn't be watching MotoGP if he wasn't there. I still hope he gets back to his winning ways, but I am not holding my breath.

There is only one way to go when you have been at the top of your game.

Just ask Tiger or The Fed Express.

[cowpoos]

It was something Casey Stoner could ride the arse off. Nobody else. Capirossi is the only other person to win on it a.

And Troy......

[slowpoke]

Yep, exactly Pete! Stoner won on the carbon framed bike last year, its not a completely new bike. Stoner won 3 of the last 6 races last year. Any changes made have been at the insistence of Rossi/Burgess, and clearly they have got it wrong.

As mentioned previously Stoner had the luxury of evolving with the Ducati, he never had to make a giant leap. Capirossi won on the old toob frame jobbie that most folks got along with yet is just as lost as Melandri, Elias and every other poor bastard who had to make the giant leap of faith.

But Stoner has only ever had to take small steps as he tested and evaluated all the "improvements" over the years, and he's adapted lil' by lil' along the way.

But throw the whole lot at anybody in one hit and they're fucked. And if Stoner had been riding Honda, Yamaha or god forbid Suzuki all these years and just jumped on the Duc as it stands he'd be just as lost as everyone else.

[Brian d marge]

One suspects that they ( ducati) are doing their best with what they have got , This year will be difficult , stretching the team to the limits , designing this years AND next years bikes ...how they will change the bike , No one knows , there were Emails flying about suggesting .... GIRDER aka Britain style forks !!! ( yes Shaun !)
There maybe pressure towards Bridgestone to change the tyre or allow different compounds
As it stands , on those tyres , and that bike he is pushing shit up hill and will next year as well , Rossi isn't finished yet not by a long shot , but they do need to flash a bit of cash , by the end of next year

Stephen

Btw , I work with and know one or two from Honda , and lets just say there is an old English saying that can sum up the corporate philosophy . about a head being up ones own arse ..........

[Shaun]

As mentioned previously Stoner had the luxury of evolving with the Ducati, he never had to make a giant leap. Capirossi won on the old toob frame jobbie that most folks got along with yet is just as lost as Melandri, Elias and every other poor bastard who had to make the giant leap of faith.

But Stoner has only ever had to take small steps as he tested and evaluated all the "improvements" over the years, and he's adapted lil' by lil' along the way.

But throw the whole lot at anybody in one hit and they're fucked. And if Stoner had been riding Honda, Yamaha or god forbid Suzuki all these years and just jumped on the Duc as it stands he'd be just as lost as everyone else.

well said dude, very accurate and clear as mud

[Shaun]

One suspects that they ( ducati) are doing their best with what they have got , This year will be difficult , stretching the team to the limits , designing this years AND next years bikes ...how they will change the bike , No one knows , there were Emails flying about suggesting .... GIRDER aka Britain style forks !!! ( yes Shaun !)
There maybe pressure towards Bridgestone to change the tyre or allow different compounds
As it stands , on those tyres , and that bike he is pushing shit up hill and will next year as well , Rossi isn't finished yet not by a long shot , but they do need to flash a bit of cash , by the end of next year

Stephen

Btw , I work with and know one or two from Honda , and lets just say there is an old English saying that can sum up the corporate philosophy . about a head being up ones own arse ..........

amazing what one can learn from knowing people eh stephen, especially when one has ares as big as mine