Rossi is a coming

[Shaun]

Stoner is speaking for himself by winning races. More people are trying to stick up for their little boyfriend, and he's going backwards. The diff in times between them and the winner has not really closed up all season mate. I actually can read quite well.

O No, dont tell me you of all people cannot see when IM having a laugh at ya

[Crasherfromwayback]

O No, dont tell me you of all people cannot see when IM having a laugh at ya

Ditto ya silly old coont!

[gixerracer]

I believe your argument is that while Ducati have improved...Honda etc have improved more. That may be the case...but like I said, Rossi was 25 seconds slower over race distance this year at Laguna that Stoner was. That to me is not an improvement, and you can harldy blame the tyres , as they (just like last year) all have the same tyres on offer. They're going backwards.

Wasnt everyone slower there this year than last?? That question was asked by the press after Q and the boys just said er um yea we have no answer as to why.
Im just sayin thats all. Rossi and Ducati sure do suck so far

[Crasherfromwayback]

Wasnt everyone slower there this year than last?? That question was asked by the press after Q and the boys just said er um yea we have no answer as to why.
Im just sayin thats all. Rossi and Ducati sure do suck so far

The winning time this year was 43 mins, 52.145 seconds, and last year was 43 mins,54.8 seconds, so no, they went (just) faster this year.

Just sayin.

[gixerracer]

The winning time this year was 43 mins, 52.145 seconds, and last year was 43 mins,54.8 seconds, so no, they went (just) faster this year.

Just sayin.

Haha I guess I wasnt talking about the race then im just saying
So 1 year and squillions of dollars and they go less than a micro second per lap faster dont ya just love this modern technology

[Crasherfromwayback]

Haha I guess I wasnt talking about the race then im just saying
So 1 year and squillions of dollars and they go less than a micro second per lap faster dont ya just love this modern technology

You know me. Rather see them old the old smoking dinosaurs mate.

[Tony.OK]

Would love to see them go 10 sec a lap slower and have no traction control etc, then the men would shine from the boys.
Lorenzo's highside kinda showed how much they rely on the electrickery, very fast on the throttle = off the bike if ya are used to having the pc do the job for ya.

Bring back skids and smoke F1 have learned the hard way by loosing huge followings...........look how popular it is again without all the aids.

[gixerracer]

Would love to see them go 10 sec a lap slower and have no traction control etc, then the men would shine from the boys.
Lorenzo's highside kinda showed how much they rely on the electrickery, very fast on the throttle = off the bike if ya are used to having the pc do the job for ya.

Bring back skids and smoke F1 have learned the hard way by loosing huge followings...........look how popular it is again without all the aids.

If they ditched traction control Rossi and stoner would be hard to bet I think well if they can fix that red heap of shit

[Tony.OK]

If they ditched traction control Rossi and stoner would be hard to bet I think well if they can fix that red heap of shit

That would be interesting, has Casey ever ridden a GP without TC. I remember a few years ago they had Vale following Casey at PI and had the throttle break graphics showing, Casey just hit the apex and was 100% throttle, Vale was more what you'd expect feeding it steadily till just after the apex.

Was definately a huge difference in throttle application between the 2, Casey so obviously relying more on his TC than Vale.

[gav]

Still sounds like someone making a lot of excuses for a carbon chassis that seemed to perform quite well in the last 6 races of the season last year. (4 podiums including 3 wins). As far as money, I think Stoner is getting paid way more with Honda than he got at Ducati. Remember when he was sitting out a few races and Ducati offered silly money to Lorenzo? That pretty well made up Stoners mind that he wasnt really valued at Ducati. I'm sure Honda were keen to pay top dollar to get a rider as good as Stoner. Looking at the results, looks like money well spent.

[gixerracer]

That would be interesting, has Casey ever ridden a GP without TC. I remember a few years ago they had Vale following Casey at PI and had the throttle break graphics showing, Casey just hit the apex and was 100% throttle, Vale was more what you'd expect feeding it steadily till just after the apex.

Was definately a huge difference in throttle application between the 2, Casey so obviously relying more on his TC than Vale.

Stoner turns down the traction control as much as possible and rides sideways as much as possible on the Dushitty and the honda he does more slides than most I think he has great control and would do well without it

[denill]

Stoner turns down the traction control as much as possible and rides sideways as much as possible on the Dushitty and the honda he does more slides than most I think he has great control and would do well without it

It seems to me that Stoner's penchant for drifting thru the turns was the reason for extracting the results he achieved on the Red bike. Results no one else has come close to on the pig.

[roogazza]

It seems to me that Stoner's penchant for drifting thru the turns was the reason for extracting the results he achieved on the Red bike. Results no one else has come close to on the pig.

He sure is good at what he does Bill. At Laguna he seemed to be more patient and looked after his tyres. I don't recall him doing that before ?

[Crasherfromwayback]

That would be interesting, has Casey ever ridden a GP without TC. I remember a few years ago they had Vale following Casey at PI and had the throttle break graphics showing, Casey just hit the apex and was 100% throttle, Vale was more what you'd expect feeding it steadily till just after the apex.

Was definately a huge difference in throttle application between the 2, Casey so obviously relying more on his TC than Vale.

Try a 250 GP bike. Stoner is also a multiple time Australian dirt track champion. One of the many reasons he has such fantastic throttle control. If you look back at interviews when Stoner was Haydens team mate, Hayden always said Stoner's throttle control was incredible when their data was compared. It was actually Hayden that was just cracking it open, not Stoner. Stoner is also one of the more vocal guys speaking out against TC.

[denill]

He sure is good at what he does Bill. At Laguna he seemed to be more patient and looked after his tyres. I don't recall him doing that before ?

Yeah Gaz, he's matured a lot since the LCR days