Burglar VS Gentle Giant: 15yrs old & stood his ground!

[willytheekid]

Armies the world over count on teenage stupidity.

Stabbing is somewhat more serious than attempted burglary, not matter how indignantly you rednecks bay for blood.

The right of self-defence is rather murky in law, and the right of property defence even murkier. The police will no doubt put it before the courts, so this kid will be put through the legal wringer.

And he should be - stabbing a burglar is a step too far.

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Cool - does that mean I can shoot the bastard who occasionally pinches my newspaper in the morning? Awesome...

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Explain your P.C "better than us Rednecks" point of view to this guy:

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...nc21-all-black.

Cos most of us are SICK! of the scum getting away with crime in this country...the police work there arse's off catching the pricks, then PC softys like you lot give them the OL "its not there fault...tough childhood" talk in court, and then release them back into the community with a slap on the wrist!...to (as this guy did) re-offend!...so its nice to see a story where the innocent have stood up for themselves and the scum have FOR ONCE! come of worse.

I do however agree that stabbing people isn't nice....But while defending your property and family.....FUCK EM!

And Yes Virago, Its your morning paper for gods sake!....of course you can shoot that bastard! (I recommend a Rocksalt shot to the arse!)

[Scuba_Steve]

If I caught him, as per my right to justice I think I'd be giving him some whiskey followed by the Machete at the wrist, some more whiskey for the nub with the hot plate to end. Then he'd be given back his hand & kicked out the door.

Justice served

[Murray]

The sad thing about it is that if it doe's go to court its going to cost a lot of money for lawyers fees etc. So they lose again to scumarse burglers!!

[Ronin]

Armies the world over count on teenage stupidity.

Stabbing is somewhat more serious than attempted burglary, not matter how indignantly you rednecks bay for blood.

The stabee in question supposedly stole the kids trail bike earlier. As there was a bike involved the stabbing is justified.

Supposedly.

[willytheekid]

If I caught him, as per my right to justice I think I'd be giving him some whiskey followed by the Machete at the wrist, some more whiskey for the nub with the hot plate to end. Then he'd be given back his hand & kicked out the door.

Justice served

...jesus steve!
....Remind me not to pinch your paper! (See Virago...it works! lol)

[Scuba_Steve]

...jesus steve!
....Remind me not to pinch your paper! (See Virago...it works! lol)

Na you can have my paper ... reading makes you go blind

[HenryDorsetCase]

The sad thing about it is that if it doe's go to court its going to cost a lot of money for lawyers fees etc. So they lose again to scumarse burglers!!

why is that a bad thing? spending money on lawyers is a gooooood thing.

[Virago]

...The response should be weighted towards how much we want this shit to stop, not on how severe the crime is.

Actions-consequences.

...The property owner should have all the rights and the criminal on that persons propery should have none, Regardless of what he intends to do while there.

Alas, real life isn't as black and white as the pages of an internet forum. It's all a matter of degree.

Let's say your young son (or little brother) succumbed to a bit of peer pressure. He dashes into a corner dairy, pockets a Moro Bar and runs out again. The dairy owner runs outside with a rifle, and shots him in the back, killing him stone dead.

Would you gleefully applaud the actions of the property owner? Of course not.

Anyone who inflicts an act of violence against a property criminal (beyond basic apprehension) can expect to have that action questioned in a court of law. The only exception is for police officers, who will investigate themselves - something I strongly object to - they should also be subject to the same open court system as the general public.

[NighthawkNZ:Me]

Cool - does that mean I can shoot the bastard who occasionally pinches my newspaper in the morning? Awesome...

yes...

[quallman1234]

One finger off per robbery i reckon would be a apporiate course of justice.

More they repeat it, less likely they can repeat it.

[Eyegasm]

Sorry Virago, But I am with the masses on this one.

If I am home and someone breaks in, I consider that home invasion and will stab them in the face, RIGHT IN THE FACE!!!

If I am not home, go nuts... I'm insured.

The way I see it is, How do i know this person is only here for my possessions?
"Excuse me, but I have to ask first. You here just to steal my shit?"

Sod that. I'll give him a bit of acupunture.

[Murray]

why is that a bad thing? spending money on lawyers is a gooooood thing.

Jees if your a lawyer? By the time you read the thread and responded it may have taken more than 5 minutes (I think thats how they charge now (although I have heard it may be in 3 minute increments now??)). You could have earned at least $20+

[LankyBastard]

Its very pleasing to see the do-gooders are the minority

[Banditbandit]

It's not up to the police to decide whether it was justified self-defence - that's up to the community - which is represented by the jury ...

I'm sure we can rely on the community to make the right decision ..

[Smokin]

Alas, real life isn't as black and white as the pages of an internet forum. It's all a matter of degree.

Let's say your young son (or little brother) succumbed to a bit of peer pressure. He dashes into a corner dairy, pockets a Moro Bar and runs out again. The dairy owner runs outside with a rifle, and shots him in the back, killing him stone dead.

Would you gleefully applaud the actions of the property owner? Of course not.

Anyone who inflicts an act of violence against a property criminal (beyond basic apprehension) can expect to have that action questioned in a court of law. The only exception is for police officers, who will investigate themselves - something I strongly object to - they should also be subject to the same open court system as the general public.

Can't agree again I'm afraid, If the store was closed and the owners in bed asleep, then yes, shoot him. shop lifting a moro in plain view during operating hours is not what this thread was about. If the property owners had the right to protect their property properly the scumbags would think twice before breaking into somones home and risk getting messed up doing it.