Junior Road Racing needs to be more attractive

**oyster** · 2nd August 2011, 15:30

Big respect to you Billy, but you're not quite right about Christchurch
Why it works here is because the club, Motorcycling Canterbury is committed to making junior development part of it's business. This is not charity, it's just good sense for any enterprise or business to look out into the future. After all, every other sport does it, and consequently reaps the benefit of it's investment in future years.
It's a cliche I know, but youth IS the future.

And besides, our leaders at MNZ tell us in the first page of the rule book "fostering the sport"
Clubs are told to do it!

**Deano** · 2nd August 2011, 15:39

Originally Posted by oyster

And MNZ have even set up the rules for it as a senior class IE no age category as Pro Twin has.

Say what ?

Can you please provide a link to that rule ?

(Edit - sorry, the pro twin age rule.)

**Str8 Jacket** · 2nd August 2011, 15:43

Originally Posted by Deano

Say what ?

Can you please provide a link to that rule ?

Worried that you're getting to old??

**Deano** · 2nd August 2011, 15:54

Originally Posted by Str8 Jacket

Worried that you're getting to old??

If I am it might be time to build an F3 hot rod.

I'm just a young fella compared to Glen and Terry

Shit, by the time I'm their age I might even be as fast !!

**Shaun** · 2nd August 2011, 16:07

Originally Posted by Deano

If I am it might be time to build an F3 hot rod.

I'm be just a young fella compared to Glen and Terry

Shit, by the time I'm their age I might even be as fast !!

Apart from the fact that Glen sits down to PISS

they are similar ---

so if they can do it so can you

**codgyoleracer** · 2nd August 2011, 16:19

Terry & My secret is that we are so old now that we dont care if we die anyway......

**Ivan** · 2nd August 2011, 17:48

Choppa your bang on the money see im doing the dead opposite of what you did come from motox to road im going road to motox and I see what you mean the kids there who are probably 10 have all the flashest new riding gear like Alpinestars etc there pits usally have someone they know parked there with Bling as chromes on a Hiace slammed out, there bikes have awsome custom graphics kits and there bikes are new, if htey were to look into streetstock and see a 10 year old 150 been thrashed and probably a lil scuffed on the edges they wont be keen,

I think its cool you trying to do something and hope it works, theres some good potential in the jr mx series at the mo whocould bring some pretty good bike skills they have learnt at a young age over and adapt

**CHOPPA** · 2nd August 2011, 19:43

Its a shame im not really in the position to be able to put any time into a project because im a little bit tied up with my own racing atm.

If I had more time specially around the nationals, I reckon the "scholarship" idea would be easy to do and it would put road racing in front of the mx riders.

The trick would be to get this bike....
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/moto...-380148527.htm

Offer the prize to 5 of the fastest jnrs at the MX nats.

Get Pirelli or the like to supply 5 sets of tyres
Get CSS on board to borrow gear and give them training.
Someone to run the bike at the track, M1 could probably.

Get a bike magazine behind it to give it momentum and it would certainly open some eyes.

BTW If you choose to disregard what I say about the flashy and the cool, your not gonna tap into the real talent.

I havnt seen any real talent in road racing that I have seen in MX. There is 14 year old kids that could match the lap times on a smooth track that a top world class mx rider could lay down. That is the talent we need coming over to road racing.

Its hard not to take what I say as in insult for those of you who are out there putting in the hard yards, I have only been around a few years and I can see the the growth in the youth racing so obviously you are doing a great job

Im putting thought into whatever it may take to steal some MX riders, they will love it!

**FROSTY:Me** · 2nd August 2011, 21:05

Ya know oyster can say what he wants but the reason JRR took off in Christchurch is the dedication and drive of ONE person. That person made it happen by putting in the time and effort untill now its become a bit of a juggernaught.
No Im not ass kissing here Oyster.
The point being quite often thats all it takes to get things off the ground -ONE person with drive and determination.( helps to be a bit of a masacist)
Oyster and I agreed to disagree on the subject of NZ's biggest population base -dauckland and JRR opertunities here.
I believe that in auckland the 50cc two stroke F5 class is a fantastic place for racers to start out. Why?
Simple accessability of the track is the key. I could see an entire day of junior road racers eventually. Full on F5 50's and F4 150's -which with the FXR150's being allowed means some sexy looking bikes could be built.
I know we are a pimple on the words backside but look at how Rossi started out. Look at countries with a booming junior race culture. Gosh even look to malasia.
ONE person can make it happen

**ellipsis** · 2nd August 2011, 21:22

...bang on...as soon as one mans idea is filtered, washed, turned around and the original idea is given to a group(committee) to action...it invariably turns out to be no change...just like before...but leading from the front takes a bit of balls and commitment and is often seen as a good reason for being set upon by the pack...for no apparent sensible reason it seems, in good 'ol kiwi...

**cowpoos** · 2nd August 2011, 21:35

Originally Posted by Robert Taylor

Sloan Frost, Scotty Moir being two great examples. And Johny Burkhart had he been able to continue

Simon crafar, Aaron Slight, apparently Pie Boi Shirriffs chased a few chooks in his time too

**cowpoos** · 2nd August 2011, 21:39

Originally Posted by CHOPPA

Yeah it was part of a red bull thing, Casey rode his and he rode Caseys KTM 125 GP bike. Imagine that for your first ride!!

He also did a track day at HDs on MR Motorcycles zx6r

my mind boogles How BT would fit on caseys 125 KTM !!

**FROSTY:Me** · 2nd August 2011, 21:47

Originally Posted by CAMSec

...bang on...as soon as one mans idea is filtered, washed, turned around and the original idea is given to a group(committee) to action...it invariably turns out to be no change...just like before...but leading from the front takes a bit of balls and commitment and is often seen as a good reason for being set upon by the pack...for no apparent sensible reason it seems, in good 'ol kiwi...

Yea but Im told when it comes off its pretty darn satisfying.

**racefactory** · 2nd August 2011, 21:47

Good post man. Junior motarding does sound like the way to go. What needs to be done is to get a body together organizing more access to kart tracks or improvise some supermotard tracks (seriously, once a month is far from enough... these guys can hit woodhill any day of the week). If this was the case then all they would need is 1000 bucks for some 17 inch rims and tyres to take their KTM 125's and CR125's road racing. It's very true what you say about the grotty, ageing and uncool small bikes- fuck that I'll have a 125 mx bike any day.