Dumb drivers who don't know the road rules

[oneofsix]

There's a load of shit like this site around - hand signals. But if most people don't know what the hand signals mean what is the point of using them? That's why Dr Indy Cator was knighted for his invention.

If he was knighted he would be Sir Dr Indy Cator actually I don't believe he was a Dr but an engineer so that should have been Sir Indy Cator

[Swoop]

An epic thread in the making... Nobody has invoked the Godwin law yet and the normal KB confusion about "loose" Vs "lose" has not happend.

What's the place coming to?

[yungatart]

An epic thread in the making... Nobody has invoked the Godwin law yet and the normal KB confusion about "loose" Vs "lose" has not happend.

What's the place coming to?

They're still figuring out their theres...

[oneofsix]

An epic thread in the making... Nobody has invoked the Godwin law yet and the normal KB confusion about "loose" Vs "lose" has not happend.

What's the place coming to?

umm does your avatar invoke Godwin's law, do you feel constrained from posting until someone else invokes it because of your avatar, is this your concern?
We could gas those going straight thru round a bouts that indicate on entry instead of shooting them if that would make you feel better

[James Deuce]

An epic thread in the making... Nobody has invoked the Godwin law yet and the normal KB confusion about "loose" Vs "lose" has not happend.

What's the place coming to?

Stop being such a petty little Hitler. Oops.

[Scuba_Steve]

Imagine yourself going round and round a roundabout. ALL of the exits are to your left. (Perhaps imagine cutting the road, and straightening the roundabout). It makes perfect sense to indicate LEFT before you exit the roundabout. (This also applies when you've initially indicated RIGHT on entry, to go, um, right).

It makes no sense. left for left, right for right, nothing for straight it's very simple & it's worked well for fucking decades

The reason it's useful, is it lets the next driver along - who may not have seen you enter the roundabout - know that you intend to exit.

1. most the time you'd be struggling to see the left indicator making it pointless
2. trying to work out just where people are going with their indication is worse than ever i.e. indicating right when traveling straight
3. on small roundabouts it forces you to break the law, & on bigger ones would cause more confusion if the law was followed

I find it also helps make sure the "right turning" people turn off their right indicator quickly enough, so you know they are not continuing 'round.

Why is this so hard?

not hard, just idiotic! sometimes on bigger roundabouts a courtesy indication is acceptable but it should NEVER have been written into law.

[pzkpfw]

So what's dumber? Drivers who don't know the road rules, or drivers who decide they don't like the rules so don't follow them?

(Disclaimer: I know the speed limit is 100 km/h, yet... (but I never said I wasn't one of the dumb ones.))

[pzkpfw]

It makes no sense. left for left, right for right, nothing for straight it's very simple & it's worked well for fucking decades

Oh rubbish. That's just the old "good enough for my Grandfather" argument. And the rules for roundabouts have been in place for decades.

1. most the time you'd be struggling to see the left indicator making it pointless

Rubbish. I generally always see it.

2. trying to work out just where people are going with their indication is worse than ever i.e. indicating right when traveling straight

So your argument to not follow the law is because some people don't follow the law?

3. on small roundabouts it forces you to break the law,...

Rubbish. It's taken into account in the law.

... & on bigger ones would cause more confusion if the law was followed

Rubbish. It's LESS confusing on the big roundabouts. That's when you are more likely to have not seen the other car enter, so it's even more useful to know they plan to exit before they get to you.

(edit: in fact, I'm so stunned by this comment of yours I have to wonder if you actually know the rules for indicating at roundabouts.)

not hard, just idiotic! sometimes on bigger roundabouts a courtesy indication is acceptable but it should NEVER have been written into law.

If a curtesy indication is useful, why not make it law? Leaving it up to the drivers to decide when and when not is worst of all. Just always indicate, and always indicate "properly". Simple.

[oneofsix]

So what's dumber? Drivers who don't know the road rules, or drivers who decide they don't like the rules so don't follow them?

(Disclaimer: I know the speed limit is 100 km/h, yet... (but I never said I wasn't one of the dumb ones.))

the ones that don't know them.. By implication those that don't like them and therefore disobey at least have the knowledge and are aware of what they are doing

[Ocean1]

There's a load of shit like this site around -

That right turning signal will get you killed, not only is it actually the "I'm stopping" signal but any variation on it will be seen as the same thing. The dude up your arse is thinking: “cool, he’s fucking off to the side of the road, I can blast past the jerk”.

Do what you like, in extremis I've stuck my right arm straight out.

[Scuba_Steve]

Oh rubbish. That's just the old "good enough for my Grandfather" argument. And the rules for roundabouts have been in place for decades.

No thats the old it's logical & it works argument and this new retarded roundabout rule is only just breaching the decade mark the old superior rule was in for decades longer & it worked well.

Rubbish. I generally always see it.

On the big ones???

So your argument to not follow the law is because some people don't follow the law?

No my argument is not to follow the law cause it's retarded doesn't work & forces you to be illegal, so if I'm going to be illegal I'll do it logically

Rubbish. It's taken into account in the law.

Obviously your not well versed in the law

Rubbish. It's LESS confusing on the big roundabouts. That's when you are more likely to have not seen the other car enter, so it's even more useful to know they plan to exit before they get to you.

I did say if the law was followed!

(edit: in fact, I'm so stunned by this comment of yours I have to wonder if you actually know the rules for indicating at roundabouts.)

Yes I know the law but I also know the road well & what works. I also know forcing people to indicate doesn't make them any better drivers but hey you continue to wear those rose tinted glasses of yours

If a curtesy indication is useful, why not make it law? Leaving it up to the drivers to decide when and when not is worst of all. Just always indicate, and always indicate "properly". Simple.

You use the word "properly" but neglect to see that the roundabout rule makes indicating "properly" impossible, confusing or illegal. Curtesy things should NOT be made law especially in situations like this

[Ocean1]

Oh, the roundabout thing. I do it like the nice policeman says. But I think indicating for africa is less than very good because it creates the expectation that a) people will always indicate, and b) they'll always go where they indicate.

At least in the good ol' days you knew that you trusted indicaters at your infinate peril, you watched for other clues as well, and even then you didn't put yourself in harms way.

[Scuba_Steve]

At least in the good ol' days you knew that you trusted indicaters at your infinate peril, you watched for other clues as well, and even then you didn't put yourself in harms way.

well hey thats just it I read the people NOT their cars & "when in doubt go go out"

[racefactory]

The worst widespread issue is the amount of fuckwits who indicate right when going straight over roundabouts, I can not believe the amount of clueless who do this.

[Banditbandit]

Last night I went twice through a crossroad intersection here in manure-wa (heading to my destination then back home again) and both times I had people turning (from Maich into Halsey Rd for those who know the area) waiting for me as I sat at a Give Way.

I realise that they were both probably thinking of the give-way-to-everything-on-your-right business, but they seemed oblivious to the fact that it is actually a controlled intersection. I was on the controlled Give Way, leaving them free to turn yet they sat there looking at me as if wondering why I wasn't moving.

Wtf is with people driving big metal machines on our roads who don't even have any understanding of the rules governing something so important as who has right of way? Sure, they well may have thought "better to be safe than sorry, and wait" but if they don't know this, what else are they ignorant about???

I'd rather they sat there like that than went when they are not supposed to .. it's the safer way to not understand the road rules ..