Moto 3 bikes coming out of woodwork

[steveyb]

http://www.bianchimotorsport.com/mot...allery_149.htm

€9900 to be confirmed.

also

http://reviewsmotorcycle.com/sherco-mr3-gp11-2011/

[Cleve]

http://www.bianchimotorsport.com/mot...allery_149.htm

€9900 to be confirmed.

damn sexy until you see that humungous bloody pipe on the left side..

[Ivan]

thats bloody nice! I love the look of that one, the thing is the 125s will be gone but they will still be there in looks unlike how moto2 look so much differnt from 250s

I wonder if anyone will run a Tigcraft they been building these bikes basically for a long time even if they are 450 engines in the Tig's weve all seen what Jasons bike is like

[steveyb]

Will indeed be interesting to see if any teams/factories contract Tigcraft to supply chassis.

[crazy man]

Will indeed be interesting to see if any teams/factories contract Tigcraft to supply chassis.

l dont think these teams would have any trouble building their own stuff! not realy any big deal with a big outfit

[Shaun]

thats bloody nice! I love the look of that one, the thing is the 125s will be gone but they will still be there in looks unlike how moto2 look so much differnt from 250s

I wonder if anyone will run a Tigcraft they been building these bikes basically for a long time even if they are 450 engines in the Tig's weve all seen what Jasons bike is like

I think Tigcraft are heavily invloved with Norton mate building there 1000cc MotoGP rig

[Ivan]

I think Tigcraft are heavily invloved with Norton mate building there 1000cc MotoGP rig

Awsome I have talked to Dave quite alot through email very cool guy he was helping me out with ideas on some bikes I thought of building before I decided to call it quits he is very clever and any bike he works on im sure will be a suiccess his moto2 bike chassis looks quite cool

[steveyb]

Someone has done some homework to find pics of the bikes.

http://www.usgpru.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=10166

The KTM looks simply like their RC125 with a 4T motor in it. Choice!!

The Saachi engine looks the business, but I can't see how it will fit in a 125ish sized chassis. It looks too tall with all the injector gubbins on it.

The Bianchi bike looks cool, the Ioda bike looks shite!!

[Cleve]

Someone has done some homework to find pics of the bikes.

http://www.usgpru.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=10166

The KTM looks simply like their RC125 with a 4T motor in it. Choice!!

The Saachi engine looks the business, but I can't see how it will fit in a 125ish sized chassis. It looks too tall with all the injector gubbins on it.

The Bianchi bike looks cool, the Ioda bike looks shite!!

porn for youngsters (and us oldies)!

[Ivan]

i like the ioda bike the bakker bike is a RMZ250 its ok, The KTM is there 125 frame i read it somewere that at the stage that photo was taken they used the 125 frame to test the engine etc i think a new frame is coming for them and apparently Yamaha have a bike in build

[Moooools]

I find these things so much more interesting than the 125 smokers.
Such cool design work going into them. (Apart from the massive exhausts they put on a few of them...)

[steveyb]

http://powersports.honda.com/md250h-nsf250r.aspx

[wharfy]

http://powersports.honda.com/md250h-nsf250r.aspx

Pretty cool looking - I assume the price is USD so about $15,000 NZ for the "budget" one

A quick search on the CR250X dirt bike
2012 model due in November will be priced at $12,495.00

It would be interesting to know how many 250 MX bikes are sold each year in NZ ?

[wharfy]

http://powersports.honda.com/md250h-nsf250r.aspx

OK Steve, you've campaigned a few 125/250 GP bikes - what sort of money do you reckon to maintain one of these for a season ?

[steveyb]

I would not like to be too definitive, and it also depends on your 'season'

If only NZSBK and some pre-season testing then with a new engine you should need only consumables. One should not need pistons etc such as in a 2T engine.

So, just the regular consumables: gas, tyres, engine oil, brakes, chains, clutch plates etc.

If you mean a complete year of racing club and NZSBK, after the club season you would be best to rebuild the engine prior to the NZSBK season, which will include valve stuff, crank kit etc. I think that this will be significantly more expensive than a 2T engine, but I have no idea on cost of this. The cost of fully rebuilding an RS125 engine with almost everything you need is about $1200 not including labour. Just a crank/piston replacement is about $800 or so. RS125 cranks are usually good for at least 2 seasons of our type of racing.

Ultimately, while I prefer 2T engines for racing applications, I think that the 4T bikes will bring more people into the sport simply because more people think that they know what they are doing with 4T engines and also because they simply are easier to use at a basic level. At the pointy end they are just as tricky to squeeze the last few HPs out of.

However, when they go tits up, the costs of fixing the engines will be somewhat higher, I think that is for sure.

E.g. I just siezed a piston on my 250. Luckily the cylinder came out of it OK and I could clean it up in the garage, so it has cost me a piston kit at about $350 or so. With a cylinder repair that would blow out to $850 or so, but if a similar failure happened on the 4T engine (e.g. a valve failure) I would hate to think about the cost espcially after I saw what happened to Scott Moirs 450 engine.....

Anyway, if it brings more bikes onto grids then let's get into it.