Rossi is a coming

[denill]

Try a 250 GP bike. Stoner is also a multiple time Australian dirt track champion. One of the many reasons he has such fantastic throttle control. If you look back at interviews when Stoner was Haydens team mate, Hayden always said Stoner's throttle control was incredible when their data was compared. It was actually Hayden that was just cracking it open, not Stoner. Stoner is also one of the more vocal guys speaking out against TC.

Yeah, all that leaves me convinced he steered the Ducati with the throttle. Others have not been able to do that.

[Devil]

Try a 250 GP bike. Stoner is also a multiple time Australian dirt track champion. One of the many reasons he has such fantastic throttle control. If you look back at interviews when Stoner was Haydens team mate, Hayden always said Stoner's throttle control was incredible when their data was compared. It was actually Hayden that was just cracking it open, not Stoner. Stoner is also one of the more vocal guys speaking out against TC.

When Stoner was passing me at Mugello through Poggio Secco and Materassi you could hear the TC coming in regularly. Simoncelli as well. Bike sounds like it's shitting itself.

[Crasherfromwayback]

When Stoner was passing me at Mugello through Poggio Secco and Materassi you could hear the TC coming in regularly. Simoncelli as well. Bike sounds like it's shitting itself.

Yep...sounds like shite.

[yod]

When Stoner was passing me at Mugello through Poggio Secco and Materassi you could hear the TC coming in regularly. Simoncelli as well. Bike sounds like it's shitting itself.

were you on the LCR or the Suzuki?

[RobGassit]

When Stoner was passing me at Mugello through Poggio Secco and Materassi you could hear the TC coming in regularly. Simoncelli as well. Bike sounds like it's shitting itself.

Not nearly as bad as the Kawasaki's. They screeched like they were a heartbeat away from self destruction.

[Devil]

Not nearly as bad as the Kawasaki's. They screeched like they were a heartbeat away from self destruction.

Sounds pretty neat on full song though. Heh the yamaha's however, doesn't matter what rev's they're at it just seems to come out as "RAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!"
Luverly at idle and low revs though hehe.

[RobGassit]

Sounds pretty neat on full song though. Heh the yamaha's however, doesn't matter what rev's they're at it just seems to come out as "RAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!"
Luverly at idle and low revs though hehe.

That's true. And those Yamaha's sound like Ducati's. Don't go like them though thank god.

[DidJit]

Question: would it be possible to manufacture a couple of carbon fibre 'spars' from the Ducati's airbox?

Reason I ask is that it seems to me (and I am by no means an engineer or particularly mechanically minded so, please, put me right if I'm talking bollocks) that the problem is not so much the carbon fibre airbox... it's that the area of carbon fibre is too small.

It's kind of like with those plastic school rulers — easy to bend and flex when they're 30cm long, but a bit more difficult to do that once you've snapped them a couple of times and they're only 5–10cm long. At least, that's what I imagine is happening with the Duc anyway.

Have Ducati been too clever and made this fantastic piece of engineering that only requires a (relatively) small airbox to link together the front forks and the engine and, in doing so, taken away the bike's front end feel? ("Obviously," I hear you say. There has been much talk from riders and armchair experts alike about the lamented front end feel.)

So, would the solution then be (if Ducati are determined to persist with the carbon fibre chassis) to graft a couple of spars on to the airbox to make more of a traditional frame which will provide flex? Will the carbon fibre flex at those sort of lengths? Will the carbon fibre be strong enough at those sort of lengths?

I'm definitely no expert, I'm only theorizing here. What do you think (other than ditch the carbon fibre and use an M1 chassis)? Anybody familiar with using carbon fibre structurally?

[Shaun]

Question: would it be possible to manufacture a couple of carbon fibre 'spars' from the Ducati's airbox?

Reason I ask is that it seems to me (and I am by no means an engineer or particularly mechanically minded so, please, put me right if I'm talking bollocks) that the problem is not so much the carbon fibre airbox... it's that the area of carbon fibre is too small.

It's kind of like with those plastic school rulers — easy to bend and flex when they're 30cm long, but a bit more difficult to do that once you've snapped them a couple of times and they're only 5–10cm long. At least, that's what I imagine is happening with the Duc anyway.

Have Ducati been too clever and made this fantastic piece of engineering that only requires a (relatively) small airbox to link together the front forks and the engine and, in doing so, taken away the bike's front end feel? ("Obviously," I hear you say. There has been much talk from riders and armchair experts alike about the lamented front end feel.)

So, would the solution then be (if Ducati are determined to persist with the carbon fibre chassis) to graft a couple of spars on to the airbox to make more of a traditional frame which will provide flex? Will the carbon fibre flex at those sort of lengths? Will the carbon fibre be strong enough at those sort of lengths?

I'm definitely no expert, I'm only theorizing here. What do you think (other than ditch the carbon fibre and use an M1 chassis)? Anybody familiar with using carbon fibre structurally?

Im NO expert either mate, but what you are suggesting here WOULD have an effect, whether good enough only trial and testing can awnser, BUT YES< Ducati has been to cleaver for there own good and should just build a conventunall frame and go and chase race wins again

[gixerracer]

Traction control TOTAL bollocks, safety my arse, safety for the riders that cannot control the trigger they are pulling maybe, but that is it. Ban it and lets watch whem crash, in the 2 stroke days it did NOT exist, and they were propper women to ride, not like these stroke it and survive suckers, no technique, no control, no JOY, just pull the trigger



Stoner fits your choice man

Come in MR SHIRRIFS

I need traction control as I dont have the talent my right hand thinks I have

[Shaun]

I need traction control as I dont have the talent my right hand thinks I have

Nah mate, it is the PULLING action of your hand that is the problem

[gixerracer]

Nah mate, it is the PULLING action of your hand that is the problem

W a n k e r

[jellywrestler]

W a n k e r

it's politacally incorrect to call someone a wanker, they're officially known as an 'owner operator'

[Crasherfromwayback]

it's politacally incorrect to call someone a wanker, they're officially known as an 'owner operator'

Thought that was owner abuse?

[wharfy]

Thought that was owner abuse?

I think "self abuse" is the term your groping for (pun intended)

although I don't see how applying oil to something and polishing it lovingly can be termed abuse - it is just more fun if someone else does it for you