Tyre pressures and track temps

[Robert Taylor]

Dont listen to Robert Taylor he dribbles more than a pre school child

Craig is of course a lovely guy with a predisposition of terrorising KiwiBleater and ( I am told ) Faceache with his quickfire warped sense of humour. When it has suited him my technical prostrate issue has assisted his more memorable racing moments. In another thread Jellywrestler very ably pointed out to the effect that Craig requires less material in his leathers in the area of his bollocks, given ( I am told ) that area of his anatomy is of microscopic size.

[Robert Taylor]

Tyre wear is generally because of incorrect pressure, lack of grip is generally suspension related. Tyre pressures should be adjusted accordingly throughout the day, Craig is right - 30 26 is way too high if cold, aim for a 4-5 pound increase from cold to hot - depending on how you ride will determine the starting pressure.
You will need tyre warmers as the low pressures tyres demand now days when cold will otherwise feel like a flat tyre, and by the time they are warmed up they will be shredded.

90% correct but we generally see a lot of tyre wear issues BECAUSE of suspension that is not working very well, and the example I cited in this thread was just one case in point. Similarly lack of grip issues can also too often be suspension related as Disco Dan found.
Absolutely agree about tyre warmers and constant tweaking of pressures. Also a cold and non responsive shock can screw a tyre, thats why we preheat shocks ( and forks )at especially winter rounds

[jellywrestler]

( I am told ) that area of his anatomy is of microscopic size.

Don't see you driving around in a smart car compensating from the size of you Love Truncheon Robert...

[Robert Taylor]

Don't see you driving around in a smart car compensating from the size of you Love Truncheon Robert...

Exactly, they are also for vertically challenged people.

[Robert Taylor]

Don't see you driving around in a smart car compensating from the size of you Love Truncheon Robert...

What I also failed to mention is that I dont drive a poxy automatic, the length of my third leg means that I can have each leg totally dedicated to each of the three pedals.

[gixerracer]

What I also failed to mention is that I dont drive a poxy automatic, the length of my third leg means that I can have each leg totally dedicated to each of the three pedals.

May be if you drove a matchbox car

[Robert Taylor]

May be if you drove a matchbox car

Great comeback Craig! I sold my matchbox toys and used some of the proceeds to purchase a log burner as I dreaded the thought of huge powerbills with a heat pump.

Now lets get back on topic

[lostinflyz]

90% correct but we generally see a lot of tyre wear issues BECAUSE of suspension that is not working very well, and the example I cited in this thread was just one case in point. Similarly lack of grip issues can also too often be suspension related as Disco Dan found.
Absolutely agree about tyre warmers and constant tweaking of pressures. Also a cold and non responsive shock can screw a tyre, thats why we preheat shocks ( and forks )at especially winter rounds

just add to that one the way you ride can have an influence as well. some guys carry lots of entry, lots of lean, lots of throttle, early late ya ya ya, and it can all change where, when and/or how you see issues, especially as you adjust a bike to work for your own happy and sad places.

[bones1999]

I personaly think that you need to work with one suspension technician and make changes that make the bike, tyres, and suspension work for you. I would work with none other then Robert Taylor at CKT, not because of his never ending assistance and input at race meetings or track days but the ever presence of him and Dennis at most circuits most of the time so changes can be made and recordered!!! But hey what do I know!!!

[gixerracer]

I personaly think that you need to work with one suspension technician and make changes that make the bike, tyres, and suspension work for you. I would work with none other then Robert Taylor at CKT, not because of his never ending assistance and input at race meetings or track days but the ever presence of him and Dennis at most circuits most of the time so changes can be made and recordered!!! But hey what do I know!!!

What about that Kerry Taylor or Robert Dukie or what ever he calls him self you no that ex SAS fulla

[cowpoos]

thats why we preheat shocks ( and forks )at especially winter rounds

whys that?? they would cool pretty quick wouldn't they, too the wind chill temp?? the fork seals and guides maybe a tiny bit warm?

[Madness]

...you no that ex SAS fulla

I think you'll find he's ex Navy Seals

[jellywrestler]

What about that Kerry Taylor or Robert Dukie or what ever he calls him self you no that ex SAS fulla

Have not heard a thing of him since the 'Happy Feet' saga, I'm beginning to think that he was actually happy feet, well they do gulp down free food the same....

[Robert Taylor]

whys that?? they would cool pretty quick wouldn't they, too the wind chill temp?? the fork seals and guides maybe a tiny bit warm?

The forks yes, but by the time they have stabilised ''back'' the rider has had a real advantage in suspension response and therefore contact feel over the first couple of laps. Sloan has demonstrated that very well.

In answer to your last question warming is a term of relativity, we are not preheating with a flamethrower! Although I could think of a few uses for a flamethrower.

[Robert Taylor]

just add to that one the way you ride can have an influence as well. some guys carry lots of entry, lots of lean, lots of throttle, early late ya ya ya, and it can all change where, when and/or how you see issues, especially as you adjust a bike to work for your own happy and sad places.

Exactly right. Jaden Hassan is an interesting challenge in that respect