Chain cleaning?

[quickbuck]

...., rear sprocket is fine....

No such thing, they MUST be changed as a set.

[skinman]

I got a quad jack which worked fine on the virago I used to have. Always a messy job hence now I have shaft drive

[crystalball]

Year I use to just use toothbrush and kerosene and have a tray for the kero to drip into under the chain. Would roll it backward or forward to get to the next dirty part of the chain. wear gloves as its messy job and try not get kero onto the tyre. I would give the chain a nice wipe down with dry cloth before I lubed it.. Did the same to lube it as well roll backward. Now bike I have at moment has a scott oiler works well but sometimes still put some spray lube on as well. The chain stays alot cleaner with a scott oiler as well I have noticed.

[pete376403]

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All the oils job is, is to prevent friction between the sprockets and the bushes. The lubrication for the pins is always held in between the o-rings. This is why o-ring chains have a long life.

LongER life perhaps. I know the theory of O ring (X ring, etc) between the side plate but what keeps the lubricant from exiting between the end of the roller and the inner side of the side plate? There has to be clearance there to allow the roller to rotate on the bushing. The last x ring chain I replaced was in quite good condition wrt chain elongation (aka stretch) which is wear between the pins and the bushes, but the rollers were flopping around on the bushings. This chain had been well lubed during it's life.

[Flip]

No such thing, they MUST be changed as a set.

Nuts!

Its perfectly OK to replace only the front, if the back is not worn that is.

Just dont put a new chain on worn sprockets or new sprockets on an old worn chain thats all.

[quickbuck]

Nuts!

Its perfectly OK to replace only the front, if the back is not worn that is.

Just dont put a new chain on worn sprockets or new sprockets on an old worn chain thats all.

So, how can one carry out the first part of your post, if they follow the rule for the second part?

[Flip]

So, how can one carry out the first part of your post, if they follow the rule for the second part?

Nuts and what else?

You have lost me here smiler.

[imdying]

So, how can one carry out the first part of your post, if they follow the rule for the second part?

You've never re-geared a bike on the existing chain? Say from a 17 to 16 etc on a new bike.

[quickbuck]

You've never re-geared a bike on the existing chain? Say from a 17 to 16 etc on a new bike.

If the bike was new, then there would be no wear on the sprockets then....

In fact, we do in fact swap the race bikes gearing all the time, but in the case of the OP we are talking road bikes here, and the simple fact is that it is false economy just to change once component in the drive line at a time.

[caspernz]

Year I use to just use toothbrush and kerosene and have a tray for the kero to drip into under the chain. Would roll it backward or forward to get to the next dirty part of the chain. wear gloves as its messy job and try not get kero onto the tyre. I would give the chain a nice wipe down with dry cloth before I lubed it.. Did the same to lube it as well roll backward. Now bike I have at moment has a scott oiler works well but sometimes still put some spray lube on as well. The chain stays alot cleaner with a scott oiler as well I have noticed.

Yep, that's so true, with a Scottoiler the chain stays relatively clean. Just don't look at the places where the crap gets flung off....but then a wipe with a bit of kero cleans things up.