MotoGP Aragon

[DidJit]

What's with the crap livery? ...

I didn't think it was doing Repsol (or Honda) any favours either. But, hey, things of art and beauty are all subject to the eye of the beholder, aren't they?

[roogazza]

I didn't think it was doing Repsol (or Honda) any favours either. But, hey, things of art and beauty are all subject to the eye of the beholder, aren't they?

Some bagged Rossi's colour scheme on joining Ducati (me included) but once i saw it in the flesh it didn't look too bad.
I don't know, that orange might look better if the numbers didn't look like they were done with a black marker pen or electrical tape !!!

[carbonhed]

Boy... Stoner's just stomping the life out of the opposition. Third for Lorenzo was as good as he could hope for... shame Simoncelli made that small mistake otherwise we might have had a battle for the last spot on the podium.

Moto2? Just epic once again. It's become the must watch of every GP weekend. 125's always has something to offer.

[jellywrestler]

if the numbers didn't look like they were done with a black marker pen or electrical tape !!!

maybe they want to race it in NZ and this would be a pretty good diguise...

[NZsarge]

Aye. It'll save him getting in the way of the others and holding them up too. Never thought I'd see the day you could say that about Rossi. Kinda sad to see really. I hope those spagetti munchers get the bike sorted asap.

It is fucking sad to see actually, never had much time for Ducati's and this isn't endearing them to me either. Frustrating to see him on that pile of excrement when you know he'd be doing so much better on his old bike.

[NZsarge]

Notice the top speed of the Suzuki?

Did you notice the lack of top speed the Yamaha's had? Better get their shit together with the Thou's next year!

[Crasherfromwayback]

Did you notice the lack of top speed the Yamaha's had? Better get their shit together with the Thou's next year!

Yeah but I also note Lorenzo won at Mugello...which has one of the longest straights.

Two things. 1; Drive out of corners = speed down the straights. In a straight out drag race, I don't think the Yamaha has looked that much slower than the Honda.

2; I think the Honda is running way fresher engines than the Yamaha. If it was gonna come down to the wire...there's no fucking way Yamaha wanted Lorenzo having to start from pit lane. Yamaha are all but out of allocated engines, Honda has only just begun.

[rachprice]

I actually like the colour of the honda but fuck me it looks like a kid did the repsol writing and the numbers!

Moto2 was an amazing race!!

Interesting to see what Marquez will do next year hey? Another little spanish prodigy rising up through the motogp ranks

Go stoner!
Class act he is

[merv]

Yeah, well Honda do a know a thing or two about engines. With their car and general power side of the business (read anything from aircraft, generators, mowers to outboards) in addition to bikes they have all the information at their fingertips. When did a Honda Indy car engine last fail in a race for example? Compared to Ducati they have huge experience and information at their fingertips I am sure.

Casey did it so easily compared to the others he didn't need to go faster than last year's race time.

Anyway, see this http://resources.motogp.com/files/re...df?v1_64de0e26 in fact the fastest speed of the race was set by Aoyama with Rossi not far behind. I wouldn't worry about the Yamahas being down on speed, its the lap times that matter.

[Brian d marge]

I can help you there, Honda have a huge database of researched engine trials and tribulatetions, in fact I am just cleaning one document up now ( or I should be but I took the kids to the park)

there are a few quite brilliant engineers in their field, but a hell of a lot on time serving nongs but they do spend and foster research into the engine,,,,, that's their strong point

you won't see anything radical or new from Honda just solutions to problems ........

stephen

[Crasherfromwayback]

you won't see anything radical or new from Honda just solutions to problems ........

stephen

Oval pistons are a bit radical and (back then) new. Yes you can argue it was simply a solution to the problem of the restriction in the number of cyls allowed.

[merv]

Stephen, many things Honda do first and let the others play catch up, seamless gearboxes being but one example.

In this case they let the others use up all their engines too quickly haha while Honda engines just soldier on.

[NZsarge]

Yeah but I also note Lorenzo won at Mugello...which has one of the longest straights.

Two things. 1; Drive out of corners = speed down the straights. In a straight out drag race, I don't think the Yamaha has looked that much slower than the Honda.

Drive out of corner's has long been an issue with the Yamaha chassis, riders are always on about trying to improve this in their set up as for the lack there of...
Speed traps were telling the story as was the obviously easy at which some bikes and riders were passing Spies down the main straight, bottom line remains for whatever reason they were slow in their top speed compared to all the other brands, the 4 Yamaha's were the 4 slowest bikes I heard one of the commentators say.

2; I think the Honda is running way fresher engines than the Yamaha. If it was gonna come down to the wire...there's no fucking way Yamaha wanted Lorenzo having to start from pit lane. Yamaha are all but out of allocated engines, Honda has only just begun.

Yes Honda probably are running fresher engines which is giving a slight false sense of Stoner's and Pedrosa's pace but even if the likes of Yamaha weren't running low on engines I don't really think things would have turned out that differently. Yamaha needs to get the 1000cc engines to last and produce a shit load of power/grunt like Honda have with the 800's. Maybe Yamaha need to filch back the engineer's the Honda filched off them...

[BMWST?]

Good old NZ....we watch it live on free to air TV.........at 8pm.....decent hours.....


well, this year, anyway......

well i watched it starting at 8 45 pm, whats your point?(for less than a coffee a day)

[Crasherfromwayback]

Yes Honda probably are running fresher engines which is giving a slight false sense of Stoner's and Pedrosa's pace but even if the likes of Yamaha weren't running low on engines I don't really think things would have turned out that differently. Yamaha needs to get the 1000cc engines to last and produce a shit load of power/grunt like Honda have with the 800's. Maybe Yamaha need to filch back the engineer's the Honda filched off them...

How would you explain this then? Top speeds at Mugello.

1 27 Casey STONER AUS Repsol Honda Team Honda 322.3 1'48.034
2 11 Ben SPIES USA Yamaha Factory Racing Yamaha 319.2 1'48.479 0.445 / 0.445
3 58 Marco SIMONCELLI ITA San Carlo Honda Gresini Honda 321.0 1'48.485 0.451 / 0.006
4 4 Andrea DOVIZIOSO ITA Repsol Honda Team Honda 324.8 1'48.694 0.660 / 0.209
5 1 Jorge LORENZO SPA Yamaha Factory Racing Yamaha 323.1 1'48.756 0.722 / 0.062