Actrix Winter Series Round 6 - Taupo

[RobGassit]

I reckon I will do the long track quicker then the majority of the streetstock etc will do the short track

Can you do 2 seasons on a set of tyres?

[CHOPPA]

Can you do 2 seasons on a set of tyres?

I sure could

[gixerracer]

Can you do 2 seasons on a set of tyres?

As long as we are asking STUPID questions then. Can you do 1 29 round track one at Taupo

[Billy]

And there it is right there folks,Yet another example of the junior classes in the North Island being treated as second class citizens,Pro lite 250 is a national championship class and should be treated as such,My bet is it will be better supported this season than superbike!!!

Now why is it the bulk of the new talent is coming out of the South Island ???????

[CHOPPA]

And there it is right there folks,Yet another example of the junior classes in the North Island being treated as second class citizens,Pro lite 250 is a national championship class and should be treated as such,My bet is it will be better supported this season than superbike!!!

Now why is it the bulk of the new talent is coming out of the South Island ???????

So are they going to be doing 20 lap races at the nationals in the South Island?

[RobGassit]

Not sure how these Superbike guy's find helmets big enough for their heads. Must be custom made.

[oyster]

I can't speak for North Island experience. But in the south on our three tracks (at club events) Superbikes are 20% faster than Streetstock/Prolite/Buckets (Mylaps doesn't lie)
So it's easy, just give the Supers 6 laps and SS /Prolite/F4 5 laps and the track time is the same . Isn't that fair?
But wait, no it isn't. We have 40 plus on our grid, versus half or less of Supers. So if the club was to be fair on a "user pays" (per class) basis, they'd give the Supers 3 laps, or instead of 3 races, give them 1.5 races
Now we're getting reasonable/sensible...

[RobGassit]

Track 1 is way to long for SS150, Don't even like it much on my Post Classic bike

Track 4 is being used forthe Nationals and some of the PMCC rounds

I just don't see how you guy's can think Taupo's straight is too long? Track length is virtually the same as Manfield. Best prepare yourselves for a bit of a shock if you go south for the Nationals. Having watched the bloody fantastic Streetstock racing down on the Mainland with all the drafting and overtaking that makes this class a real riders challenge, and a tremendous way to learn the craft, I can't help but think you guy's are missing out on alot of fun. And if you run this class, why are you encouraging Superbike riders and others to marginalize a class that pays the same fees and is just getting on it's feet as a feeder for NZ Motorcycle Road Racing. Future NZ Superbike Racers are in this feeder class now. They deserve encouragement and respect.

[gixerracer]

I can't speak for North Island experience. But in the south on our three tracks (at club events) Superbikes are 20% faster than Streetstock/Prolite/Buckets (Mylaps doesn't lie)
So it's easy, just give the Supers 6 laps and SS /Prolite/F4 5 laps and the track time is the same . Isn't that fair?
But wait, no it isn't. We have 40 plus on our grid, versus half or less of Supers. So if the club was to be fair on a "user pays" (per class) basis, they'd give the Supers 3 laps, or instead of 3 races, give them 1.5 races
Now we're getting reasonable/sensible...

So Pete if I understand your way of thinking then the 125gp world championship races should be say 5 laps long and the motogp races should be around 165laps then based on your user pays calcs?

[gixerracer]

I just don't see how you guy's can think Taupo's straight is too long? Track length is virtually the same as Manfield. Best prepare yourselves for a bit of a shock if you go south for the Nationals. Having watched the bloody fantastic Streetstock racing down on the Mainland with all the drafting and overtaking that makes this class a real riders challenge, and a tremendous way to learn the craft, I can't help but think you guy's are missing out on alot of fun. And if you run this class, why are you encouraging Superbike riders and others to marginalize a class that pays the same fees and is just getting on it's feet as a feeder for NZ Motorcycle Road Racing. Future NZ Superbike Racers are in this feeder class now. They deserve encouragement and respect.

How much track time does Dan mettam get in the Ninja 250cup thing he is doing in Europe. Not very much I think will be your answer compared to what is deemed to be the Main classes.
I raced 600ss support race at P Island motogp got one short practice one short Qualifiyng and a couple of short races for the $thousands spent I didnt complain (not much al least) I just decided it isnt worth the money and made the choice not to do that meeting anymore. If you dont like my point is dont fucken go

[Billy]

So are they going to be doing 20 lap races at the nationals in the South Island?

Probably not,But They will be on the same track as everybody else!!!!

[Billy]

How much track time does Dan mettam get in the Ninja 250cup thing he is doing in Europe. Not very much I think will be your answer compared to what is deemed to be the Main classes.
I raced 600ss support race at P Island motogp got one short practice one short Qualifiyng and a couple of short races for the $thousands spent I didnt complain (not much al least) I just decided it isnt worth the money and made the choice not to do that meeting anymore. If you dont like my point is dont fucken go

Err,Think you missed the point there young fella,Prolite/streetstock/minilite are on track 2 and the rest are on track 1 for round 6

[CHOPPA]

I figured they made the decision due to a time factor, I reckon track 2 on a small bike would be heaps better? Id rather do 4 laps of track 2 then 2 laps of track 1 surely???

[RDjase]

I just don't see how you guy's can think Taupo's straight is too long? Track length is virtually the same as Manfield. Best prepare yourselves for a bit of a shock if you go south for the Nationals. Having watched the bloody fantastic Streetstock racing down on the Mainland with all the drafting and overtaking that makes this class a real riders challenge, and a tremendous way to learn the craft, I can't help but think you guy's are missing out on alot of fun. And if you run this class, why are you encouraging Superbike riders and others to marginalize a class that pays the same fees and is just getting on it's feet as a feeder for NZ Motorcycle Road Racing. Future NZ Superbike Racers are in this feeder class now. They deserve encouragement and respect.

Its not my decision about Track 1 or 2 for Vicclub rounds Rob.

SS150 lap times at 3.3km Taupo long track are 1.57 (Andy Croft at PMCC rd3, Tyler did a 2.07 on his FXR150) and 3.0km Manfeild are 1.29ish.

30 second ish longer lap times.

Would still rather do more laps on Track 2 than less on track 1 and you still have half the long straight and the start/finish straight for drafting

Best prepare yourselves for a bit of a shock if you go south for the Nationals

What has the Vic Club final got to do with the Nats?

[Billy]

Its not my decision about Track 1 or 2 for Vicclub rounds Rob.

SS150 lap times at 3.3km Taupo long track are 1.57 (Andy Croft at PMCC rd3, Tyler did a 2.07 on his FXR150) and 3.0km Manfeild are 1.29ish.

30 second ish longer lap times.

Would still rather do more laps on Track 2 than less on track 1 and you still have half the long straight and the start/finish straight for drafting

Wrong!!lap record at manfeild is in 1.25 sec bracket,What has laptimes at different tracks got to do with it????Example levels the lap record is around 1.17 as opposed to Ruapuna where its around 1.52ish and yet the streestock machines use the same track as everybody else

What has the Vic Club final got to do with the Nats?

It would be a good opportunity for those competing at the National to begin setting their bikes up if they are all allowed to use the long track,Unless Nigel has plans to use track 2 for the Prolite class then as well