Don Brash: "We should decriminalise marijuana"

[Gearup]

gonna be a bit hard, but just talk to the gangs (has to be higher up the food chain tho, the low minions do have delusions of their importance)



Yes, now they have to pay tax & ACC



"NZ police national intelligence"
They might have been right to start (you know back in the 90's) but now the gangs have money.

"Police intelligence", that's a contradiction in terms.

[husaberg]

Biased towards the defendant. Surely if they get off, then justice has been served? Don't be bitter about it because you think you know better than the judge... @not necessarily innocent even though they have been found to be innocent by the legal system. Healthy prejudice you have their.

Imagine how few of us dole dwellers you'd have to deal with if marijuana was decriminalised...

I wonder why I would bother to reply to your posts.
But as I clearly stated being found not guilty is not the same as being innocent. It is a very simple concept.
Why is it that you can't comprehend such a simple fact.

[blackdog]

But don't expect me to reply anymore

Nice to see a man with the courage of his convictions.

[mashman]

I wonder why I would bother to reply to your posts.
But as I clearly stated being found not guilty is not the same as being innocent
Why is it that you can't comprehend that one simple thing.

I understand it fine thanks... Tis you that refuses to see both sides of the "argument"... I grew up in a country that has a not proven verdict. But as we are supposed innocent until proven guilty and your law makes no provision for a not proven verdict (implied by not guilty or not), the person has been found not guilty (innocent) irrespective of their actual guilt (non innocence) and should be treated as innocent as they have been judged. Otherwise you'd have a third verdict. Get better evidence next time, become a better lawyer, sorry, barrister, or get a third verdict...

[puddytat]

I wonder why I would bother to reply to your posts.
.

Then dont .You could just shut the fuck up.

Man ,Im away for 2 days & have to catch up on heaps of new posts which has taken over an hour,had all these great opinions on everything & the answers to all the questions & then I got
So .....Fuck it!!
I'll watch the Rugby

[scumdog]

Then dont .You could just shut the fuck up.

Man ,Im away for 2 days & have to catch up on heaps of new posts which has taken over an hour,had all these great opinions on everything & the answers to all the questions & then I got
So .....Fuck it!!
I'll watch the Rugby

You're wasting KB time to watch RUGBY????

[Winston001]

Couple of thoughts:

Why have the number of "coffeeshops" in the Netherlands dropped by 50% over the last decade?

Why has no nation followed Portugal? - its 10 years since that country legalised narcotics.

Is altering your mental cognition using introduced chemicals actually a good thing?

[Zedder]

Couple of thoughts:

Why have the number of "coffeeshops" in the Netherlands dropped by 50% over the last decade?

Why has no nation followed Portugal? - its 10 years since that country legalised narcotics.

Is altering your mental cognition using introduced chemicals actually a good thing?

It could be a bit like the "New Zealand Experiment" of pure neo-liberal economic theory. "Rah rah rah best thing we ever did and a model for the rest of the world etc" to start with, then "Oh bugger it's turned to custard in a big way" and finally "Let's pretend it never happened and it might go away."

[mashman]

Couple of thoughts:

Why have the number of "coffeeshops" in the Netherlands dropped by 50% over the last decade?

Why has no nation followed Portugal? - its 10 years since that country legalised narcotics.

Is altering your mental cognition using introduced chemicals actually a good thing?

Source for the coffee shops? Interested in the read

Not a clue. The cynic in me believes that it's a vote loser and/or everyone expected the quality of life in Portugal to tank. (not sure if it has, but I can't find anything to support that).

There's 2 sets of research ... I could argue, and have , that it's done me no harm... but I've never seen it as my mental cognition having changed. I'm still me, but more relaxed... testimony of the wife.

[Winston001]

It could be a bit like the "New Zealand Experiment" of pure neo-liberal economic theory. "Rah rah rah best thing we ever did and a model for the rest of the world etc" to start with, then "Oh bugger it's turned to custard in a big way" and finally "Let's pretend it never happened and it might go away."

Yeeesss...but NO. Admittedly many Kiwis would like to think our recent economic changes were that simple but not so.

In 1982 Margaret Thatcher and Ronald Regan turned to the Chicago School of neoclassical economics (Milton Friedman) to address stagnant economies. NZ was an early adopter in 1985/85 then most OECD countries did the same.

And it was the best thing we ever did.

In an alternative world we'd now be like Greece but without any other countries to bail us out. Sort of the Albania of the Pacific. Kind of lyrical n'est pas.

[Zedder]

Yeeesss...but NO. Admittedly many Kiwis would like to think our recent economic changes were that simple but not so.

In 1982 Margaret Thatcher and Ronald Regan turned to the Chicago School of neoclassical economics (Milton Friedman) to address stagnant economies. NZ was an early adopter in 1985/85 then most OECD countries did the same.

And it was the best thing we ever did.

In an alternative world we'd now be like Greece but without any other countries to bail us out. Sort of the Albania of the Pacific. Kind of lyrical n'est pas.

Not according to Professor Jane Kelsey.

[jazfender]

"Portugal is a developed country with an advanced and high-income economy, with a very high Human Development Index. It has the world's 19th-highest quality-of-life, one of the top health care systems, and it's also one of the world's most globalized and peaceful nations."

.......

**Edit - Also:

"Portugal has arguably the most liberal laws concerning possession of illicit drugs in the Western world. In 2001 Portugal decriminalized possession of effectively all drugs that are still illegal in other developed nations including, but not limited to, marijuana, cocaine, heroin, and LSD. While possession is legal, trafficking and possession of more than "10 days worth of personal use" are still punishable by jail time and fines. People caught with small amounts of any drug are given the choice to go to a rehab facility, and may refuse treatment without consequences. Despite criticism from other European nations, who stated Portugal's drug consumption would tremendously increase, overall drug use rose only slightly, whilst use among teenagers dropped, along with the number of HIV infection cases, which had dropped 50% by 2009."

Fuck I love wikipedia.

[Road kill]

You needn't be insulting about it. I am happy to be educated if I'm wrong. If not for the million lbs of weed they move each year what is their main source of income?

He does that every time he doesn't have an answer to something.
Gives him time to get the latest company line from his handlers,,,don't worry he'll be back,,,,just like herpies.

[scumdog]

He does that every time he doesn't have an answer to something.
Gives him time to get the latest company line from his handlers,,,don't worry he'll be back,,,,just like herpies.

THAT'S the story - in with insults and slanging...biff!..Smack! whammo!

[blackdog]

THAT'S the story - in with insults and slanging...biff!..Smack! whammo!

Still waiting for an answer to the question.