Servicing costs - why so vague?

[bluninja]

Well it goes like this (you're obviously pendantic and none too smart)...

No, I'm pedantic.

[oneofsix]

That would be fantastic....they can tell me next weeks lotto numbers, and tell me when the dollar is going to be at it's best to buy the parts I'm going to need.

6 numbers between 1 and 40 plus a seventh bonus number between 1 and 8. Hey its a closure margin than 50.

[nodrog:Me]

Well it goes like this (you're obviously pendantic and none too smart)...

If you ask me for $1000.00 off, I may do that for you. But I certainly won't then have the profit left in the bike to be able to do your first service for free.

If you're a nice guy to deal with...I may think that throwing in the first service for free is worth it purely for the sake of a sale...I may not. I may give you a helmet etc instead. Each deal/bike is different, and comes down to margin/keenness for the dealer to sell said bike.

But don't for a minute think that the distributors give us enough margin to give all manner of shit away...cause it ain't the case.

"how come I didnt get anything for free?"

"cos you're a cock"

[Crasherfromwayback]

"how come I didnt get anything for free?"

"cos you're a cock"

You'd get a cock for free!

[Crasherfromwayback]

No, I'm pedantic.

Yeah...must check replies before calling people dummies whilst being a dummy!

[Gremlin]

My question in the OP was possibly too vague......perhaps I should have said why is scheduled maintenance not fixed price?

Because there isn't a fixed manner in which we all ride our bikes. Also, the bikes are not clones of each other, and the odd things could arise by the first service. Easiest way to demonstrate, is that simply one of a model could have a better motor, or a straighter frame, etc. We're talking about tiny tolerances, but they are there.

This isn't a penny pinching exercise. If it was the question would have been...why is the first service so expensive?

Good... nice to see no penny pinching. My other point in the post was... $150-200 isn't expensive...

It's not scheduled maintenance, it's a scheduled check-up followed by whatever work needs doing.

Actually, it's a service. As are all the others. There are just different levels of servicing. For example, a KTM I had used a run in oil, different from the regular oil, and that was changed out at the first service. From memory, the first service on all bikes includes an oil change? Someone from a bike shop would be able to confirm that... but I believed it was because of the brand new engine etc.

[Bassmatt]

Well it goes like this (you're obviously pendantic and none too smart)...

If you ask me for $1000.00 off, I may do that for you. But I certainly won't then have the profit left in the bike to be able to do your first service for free

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Why shouldn't the owner pay for time used? New bikes often need going over with a fine toothed comb. Bolts/spokes etc often come loose during break in and need tightning/adjustment. That margin is certainly not built into the profit on a new bike...so the dealer shouldn't be out of pocket checking it all.

There is a margin, there is no margin.

If i'm none too smart you are a fucken moron.

[EJK]

Couple of years ago I booked for a two stroke top end rebuild. They estimated and said to me it'll cost me around $400. Later they end up charging me $800+.

Last year their shop closed down.

[Crasherfromwayback]

If i'm none too smart you are a fucken moron.

Really? I'm not the guy comparing a motorcycle to a house...

[Bassmatt]

Really? I'm not the guy comparing a motorcycle to a house...

You have already shown you can't comprehend your own posts, I'm not surprised you are struggling with that.

[Madness]

I think all you cunts should smoke some more P and just get on with it.

[Crasherfromwayback]

You have already shown you can't comprehend your own posts, I'm not surprised you are struggling with that.

No. I struggle with people that have nothing better to do than moan about trivial shit.

[5150]

I think all you cunts should smoke some more P and just get on with it.

Then take me to your dealer

[Bassmatt]

No. I struggle with people that have nothing better to do than moan about trivial shit.

'tis the way of the KBer

[gijoe1313]

All horses for courses, using Gremlin and I as an example (quite painful for him!) - the servicing on his one KTM vastly exceeded the outlay for servicing on my fleet of motorbikes put together.

Just his "standard" servicing bills were eye-watering to say the least! But, the value of his bike being safe and up to standard was what he was prepared to pay for.

As for me, the two brand new bikes I had under warranty were always serviced right and proper by my dealer - who has worked hard to ensure that they were looked after and accommodating to my peculiarities (something about me always exceeding the 1000km on the first day of ownership and all that).

I like working on bikes, and my other bikes are spannered about by me - I can only scathingly blame any failure or mistakes on the hamfisted idiot that was working on them!

I'm pretty sure that when things go out of spec, as Gremlin's shocks did on his KTM due to his unique way of riding - he had to pay for the servicing of them, hard to give and exact quote on what would be needed, but obviously it'd cost some coin! As handy as I am on things mechanical, there are times when I leave it to the professional instead of trying to save a few bucks by "having a go". I get a rough approximation of the cost in order to know how much I got left in the bank for it (and a margin) versus eating baked beans on toast until next payday!

The only real beef is when you pay your hard earnt coin and then find out that what you paid for, did not resemble the service you thought you were paying for! That's when the defecate hits the oscillating machine!