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    Even if they can't be bothered plotting on a chart a Type approved ecdis isn't that much compared to running costs. Unless they had a gyro or steering gear failure not many excuses for it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by awa355 View Post
    With Tauranga being a major port, I would have thought they would have a response unit set up and on the 'ready' in the port.

    At least we now know what all these retired national MP's will be doing after the election, sitting on the committee that will be set up to enquire into the grounding. picking up a cool $75,000 to meet twice a month and come up with the finding, that it was all due to the ship going off course.
    Unbelievable as it is, full legal responsibility for the salvage and clean-up operations are still technically the legal responsibility of the Shipping Company, who have appointed Svitzer as salvor.


    But I would hazard to guess that this foreign owned company with a financial bottom line will do things on the cheap.

    The Government can take over full legal responsibility for the salvage as well as the clean-up if the Shipping Company’s operations are deemed ‘inadequate’

    “Section 248 of the Maritime New Zealand Act gives Maritime New Zealand the power to take control of the salvage, and we think the Government should exercise this power,” said Mr Hughes.

    WE should be ones to take full control of this situation and hand them the big fat bill END OF FARKING STORY!!!

    As a side note:
    Jim Lilley said the response from Tauranga locals has been great, at present they are holding off putting together a rescue response group of volunteers until the end of the weekend.

    Jim has had over 500 calls on his cellphone BUT please call the 0800 645 774 to put your name forward to help with the rescue of any oiled wildlife.
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    A rather pathetic reaction from the authorities to this incident. The ship hit on Wednesday ffs!

    Quote Originally Posted by Stirts View Post
    Unbelievable as it is, full legal responsibility for the salvage and clean-up operations are still technically the legal responsibility of the Shipping Company...
    Presumably they can send the bill to the owners of the foreshore and seabed.
    How dare the maori's put their rocks in a shipping channel!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swoop View Post
    How dare the maori's put their rocks in a shipping channel!
    For shore!
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    I see they're bringing in a floating crane from Singapore to remove the containers... wonder how long that'll take to get here... in the meantime, might I suggest something like

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    Some info on the ship and a photo from last week.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by mashman View Post
    I see they're bringing in a floating crane from Singapore to remove the containers... wonder how long that'll take to get here... in the meantime, might I suggest something like
    I suppose there is a good reason why they couldn't tow the Hikatea up from Wellington?
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    Quote Originally Posted by pete376403 View Post
    I suppose there is a good reason why they couldn't tow the Hikatea up from Wellington?
    Don't think it's currently in survey, and it's not capable of handling that job anyway.

    Besides, the fuel's far more of a problem. They need to transfer the fuel to a bunker tender and I believe there's a one standing by. Not so simple though, someone will need to gear up and manhandle a fucking big hose through a hatch to the bottom of the tank. Through the HFO. I don't envy them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swoop View Post

    Presumably they can send the bill to the owners of the foreshore and seabed.
    How dare the maori's put their rocks in a shipping channel!
    Sigh... naff comments really
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ocean1 View Post
    Besides, the fuel's far more of a problem. They need to transfer the fuel to a bunker tender and I believe there's a one standing by. Not so simple though, someone will need to gear up and manhandle a fucking big hose through a hatch to the bottom of the tank. Through the HFO. I don't envy them.
    I thought there were hazardous materials on board too?

    +1 on no fun getting the fuel off... just send the local boys around with they syphoning kits
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    There's a container full of astrolabe (yum) wine onboard.

    But even more ironic than the reef sharing the same name, astrolabe is also a navigation instrument (that predates the sextant).

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    Quote Originally Posted by mashman View Post
    I thought there were hazardous materials on board too?
    That's what I heard in the news "shorts" too. The quote was "might be" hazardous materials on board.

    In fact I'd be surprised if there wasn't, given what's considered "hazardous" nowadays. But, y'now there's a reason they call 'em "containers", even if they're not airtight they'll stop large quantities of most stuff escaping.

    I see they've taken to attaching the word "toxic" to "oil" to describe the fuel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ocean1 View Post
    That's what I heard in the news "shorts" too. The quote was "might be" hazardous materials on board.

    In fact I'd be surprised if there wasn't, given what's considered "hazardous" nowadays. But, y'now there's a reason they call 'em "containers", even if they're not airtight they'll stop large quantities of most stuff escaping.

    I see they've taken to attaching the word "toxic" to "oil" to describe the fuel.
    "Among the more than 1300 containers on the grounded ship are 11 containers of dangerous goods, including four of the hazardous substance ferro-silicon which is flammable if it comes into contact with water, Radio New Zealand reported."... praps t'would burn off some of the oil?

    I guess the fuel is toxic, but then what isn't these days... although from what I've read, meh, that corexit stuff is supposedly more toxic than the oil... go figure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Radio New Zealand
    the hazardous substance ferro-silicon which is flammable if it comes into contact with water
    Flammable eh? In water?
    How many times have I told you about listening to journalists?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferrosilicon

    Quote Originally Posted by mashman View Post
    that corexit stuff is supposedly more toxic than the oil... go figure.
    It's a surfactant, dishwashing liquid without the dilutants. If you drank enough of it you'd probably be in trouble, I suppose that makes it toxic.
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    I got some of the oil stuck to my shoes today, sticky as shit it is. It's a sad sight indeed on the beach and bloody scary to think of what's still to come.

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