Occupy Wellington starts 15 October 2011

[bogan]

$60,000 NZD puts you in the 1% er´bracket on a worldwide scale. Quite a few people on KB would be on a lot more than that.

Can we lynch them?

As I understand it, the 99% aren't pissed off with the 1%'s gains, just the ill gotten gains with tax loopholes, and pressuring TPTB and corruption etc; which is fair enough.

[Str8 Jacket]

$60,000 NZD puts you in the 1% er´bracket on a worldwide scale. Quite a few people on KB would be on a lot more than that.

Sadly many more are earning half or less than half of that.....

[Indiana_Jones]

Can we lynch them?

As I understand it, the 99% aren't pissed off with the 1%'s gains, just the ill gotten gains with tax loopholes, and pressuring TPTB and corruption etc; which is fair enough.

Are the same people pissed off that those who earn more also pay more tax, not dollar wise but % wise?

-Indy

[Ocean1]

Sadly many more are earning half or less than half of that.....

Which puts them in the top 10%.

I think it's perfectly natural to want everyone to play by the rules, and to organise the rules such that productive effort is the variable that controls a person's income.

Unfortunately it's also perfectly natural for people to feel hard done by without knowing a jot about those high earner's work ethics. Whether they've "earned" their income or not.

So by all means tweak the rules so they describe what's "fair", and persecute the ones that break the rules. Just make godamn sure there'll be enough incentive for the genuinely productive to do their thing, eh?

'Cause at the moment it's touch and go...

[jazfender]

http://www.businessinsider.com/what-...t-2011-10?op=1

[Str8 Jacket]

Unfortunately it's also perfectly natural for people to feel hard done by without knowing a jot about those high earner's work ethics. Whether they've "earned" their income or not.

There's many a person that I personally know that work ten times harder and longer than some 'higher earning' workers that still only earn around $30,000-$35,000 for a genuine number of reasons...
It goes both ways. So of course I agree with you, but......

[JimO]

there is a group of unemployables in the octagon hope it fuckin snows and the cunts get hypothermia

[Ocean1]

There's many a person that I personally know that work ten times harder and longer than some 'higher earning' workers that still only earn around $30,000-$35,000 for a genuine number of reasons...
It goes both ways. So of course I agree with you, but......

Generalising is bad. But...

Most of the reasonably high earners I know genuinely earn their income, they really do work far harder than average, and usually take more risks. That's not to say they all produce value in proportion to their income, a small sub-set of that group of high earners I consider produce less value than might normally be expected for their level of remuneration.

Almost exclusively that sub-set hold positions that are somewhat protected. They hold a monopoly through qualification, association or some other form of exclusivity. If you believe the aim of the game is to maximise the return on your daily effort you could argue that they made good career choice.

[mashman]

"The Council has been right on board with helping us make the Occupy camp a positive experience that gets a worthwhile message out without impinging on the public" says Benjamin, a volunteer who supports the Occupy movement. "And we really appreciate that the Police have been nothing but friendly".