Do I need a bigger bike?

**nzspokes** · 18th October 2011, 20:55

Originally Posted by Tigadee

Hmmmm, what are you two implying...?

Ummm , most dump them the minute they get there full?

**Tigadee** · 18th October 2011, 20:58

Yeah, but a full [and restricted before that] means about a year, don't it? [Noob here, so what do I know...]

Sadly by the time I get my full, my Scorpio will be worth nothing because NZ will have adopted the LAMs programme this time next year.

**DrunkenMistake** · 18th October 2011, 21:07

Originally Posted by Tigadee

Yeah, but a full [and restricted before that] means about a year, don't it? [Noob here, so what do I know...]

Sadly by the time I get my full, my Scorpio will be worth nothing because NZ will have adopted the LAMs programme this time next year.

Lams wont devalue 250's
have a look at the LAMS list, there isnt really a huge list of bikes and not everyone wants a big bike off the bat.

**Tigadee** · 18th October 2011, 21:26

http://www.tmr.qld.gov.au/~/media/6a...cheme_list.pdf
Seems long enough to me...

Rats! I was gonna use the devaluation as an excuse to buy a bigger bike now!

**blue rider** · 18th October 2011, 21:52

Originally Posted by Tigadee

Yeah, but a full [and restricted before that] means about a year, don't it? [Noob here, so what do I know...]

Sadly by the time I get my full, my Scorpio will be worth nothing because NZ will have adopted the LAMs programme this time next year.

you will have fun enough with the little one and a year goes quickly (am I really saying this?). I was not too convinced about mine when i first got her, but I am really really having much fun with it now. Most likely because I actually getting to know what I do. Basic Handling Skills I am developing.

I actually am debating of keeping her, getting a garage and adding on to the herd.

One for monday, one for tuesday, and so on and so on.....and a yellow one for sundays.....

As for value if you keep her in good order, you can re-sell her quite easily. A good learner bike is a good learner bike.

**Tigadee** · 18th October 2011, 22:43

Originally Posted by blue rider

I was not too convinced about mine when i first got her, but I am really really having much fun with it now. Most likely because I actually getting to know what I do.

Oh, I like my Scorpio sofar, don't get me wrong. As it's my first bike, I have no frame of reference for disliking it anyway.

Originally Posted by blue rider

One for monday, one for tuesday, and so on and so on.....and a yellow one for sundays.....

Heh! Heh! Nice dream...

Originally Posted by blue rider

As for value if you keep her in good order, you can re-sell her quite easily. A good learner bike is a good learner bike.

Righty-ho... I shall keep her in good order, which she already is except for a tiny bit of rust on the side stand and scratches on the exhaust from previous owner.

**warewolf** · 18th October 2011, 23:40

Need: no. Want: maybe.

Big bikes aren't the be-all and end-all of motorcycling. Riding a slow bike fast is a lot more fun than riding a fast bike slow. And smaller bikes are often much nicer around town as that's their design brief.

I know there are ppl that just want a big engine and top gear, and not have to think or act or plan ahead, just have the grunt to twist the throttle and go from any revs. I prefer to be engaged in my riding: use the gearbox, rev the fcuker, plan ahead to maintain apex speed; in other words actively RIDE the bike.

Yes, if you are 100kg then a 250 might not deliver such sparkling performance, so maybe something in the 400 or 600 class might be snappier and more comfortable, too. Remember your CBX250RS is a 25 year old single with even older design; a newer v-twin like the VTR would produce a bit more power.

But sounds to me like you are chasing improvements in ergonomics not power. I'm 5'7" and I found my '86 CBX250 (not the RS) to be roomy enough. Maybe moving the pegs or bars on the RS will sort you out, sometimes it doesn't take much.

**tigertim20** · 19th October 2011, 05:38

Originally Posted by DrunkenMistake

Lams wont devalue 250's
have a look at the LAMS list, there isnt really a huge list of bikes and not everyone wants a big bike off the bat.

I dunno man, I reckon you can say goodbye to the value if screaming 250 il4's, why rape a thing to 20k rpm for a measly 40hp, when you can get a 650 with a cruisy 55hp, and a mountain of tourque at just 7k rpm?
It will take some time for the effects on the market to settle and become consistent, and the fact is that, with more variety of availabe bikes, the 400-650's will probably rise in value because their demand increases, because the constant flow of new riders will want them, as well as the fully licenced.

Originally Posted by warewolf

Need: no. Want: maybe.

Big bikes aren't the be-all and end-all of motorcycling. Riding a slow bike fast is a lot more fun than riding a fast bike slow. And smaller bikes are often much nicer around town as that's their design brief.

I know there are ppl that just want a big engine and top gear, and not have to think or act or plan ahead, just have the grunt to twist the throttle and go from any revs. I prefer to be engaged in my riding: use the gearbox, rev the fcuker, plan ahead to maintain apex speed; in other words actively RIDE the bike.

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I see your point, but:
Ride the big bike fast too and its a different story . . .
and

when you ride a big bike like you do a small one, trust me, youll be engaged. that or dead, but youll die grinning!

**nzspokes** · 19th October 2011, 05:39

Originally Posted by warewolf

Need: no. Want: maybe.

Big bikes aren't the be-all and end-all of motorcycling. Riding a slow bike fast is a lot more fun than riding a fast bike slow. And smaller bikes are often much nicer around town as that's their design brief.

I know there are ppl that just want a big engine and top gear, and not have to think or act or plan ahead, just have the grunt to twist the throttle and go from any revs. I prefer to be engaged in my riding: use the gearbox, rev the fcuker, plan ahead to maintain apex speed; in other words actively RIDE the bike.

Yes, if you are 100kg then a 250 might not deliver such sparkling performance, so maybe something in the 400 or 600 class might be snappier and more comfortable, too. Remember your CBX250RS is a 25 year old single with even older design; a newer v-twin like the VTR would produce a bit more power.

But sounds to me like you are chasing improvements in ergonomics not power. I'm 5'7" and I found my '86 CBX250 (not the RS) to be roomy enough. Maybe moving the pegs or bars on the RS will sort you out, sometimes it doesn't take much.

I would like to drop the pegs but nobody seems to do any for them.

**tigertim20** · 19th October 2011, 06:07

Originally Posted by nzspokes

I would like to drop the pegs but nobody seems to do any for them.

adaptor plates can be custom made cheaply.
as can risers.

**Tigadee** · 19th October 2011, 16:31

Hey NZspokes. I came across this web site today, dunno if it's posted somewhere else on KB but it seems very useful for those who want to compare bikes relative to rider's height and [preferred] riding posture.

http://cycle-ergo.com/

I am now able cross quite a few off as potential upgrades thanks to this calculator and I think/hope it'll be helpful to you too...

**nzspokes** · 19th October 2011, 18:13

Thats a cool site. Cheers

**MikeD400** · 19th October 2011, 19:12

Originally Posted by Tigadee

Hey NZspokes. I came across this web site today, dunno if it's posted somewhere else on KB but it seems very useful for those who want to compare bikes relative to rider's height and [preferred] riding posture.

http://cycle-ergo.com/

I am now able cross quite a few off as potential upgrades thanks to this calculator and I think/hope it'll be helpful to you too...

LMAO that website is fun! Choose a R1 and set it too

Your height: 8' 5
Inseam: 30"
Preferred arm straightness: 50%

That looks comfy!

**Fatt Max** · 19th October 2011, 19:15

I am a big fat bastard on a Hyosung GV250. She is great at 100 and can cruise nicely at 120. Its physically a big bike and perfect for me.

I ride every day, commute mostly with a blat on the way home if the weather holds. She has taken me to Taupo and back no bother and we are going to Wellington in February and oop north in March.

Financially she costs next to bugger all to run, is great on gas (best part of 150 - 170kms on a full 14l tank) and I am now even servicing it myself.

Do I want a bigger bike? Physically no, engine size, well, not bothered to be honest.

If you can say that you love riding your bike then stick with it and enjoy. The end of the road will come soon enough for it so you may as well enjoy what you have. If money is no object, well, goes without saying but otherwise just have it.

Yes, it is not the gruntiest bike on the road the way I look at it, I dont need the grunt. I mean, what do I want more speed on the way to work, not as if I'm looking forward to getting there.

And 75% of the fun of any journey is the journey itself. We live in gods own, dont rush around it, take it easy and take it in.