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    Quote Originally Posted by DR650gary View Post
    http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/moto...-415505438.htm

    FFS stop phaffing around and go and get one. If you don't like it, sell it and get another. It won't be your last bike, unless you take as long to get your full license as you do deciding stuff.
    A lifan? I'll pass thanks...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hotkebab View Post
    A lifan? I'll pass thanks...
    Really? Less reliable than an almost 20 year old bike that has had it's nuts wrung off by every learner that thought he could score chicks by doing wheelies? And maybe they were right

    Are you wearing Italian shoes or Chinese knockoffs? Any of your clothing Prada? A cheap bike is just that. Doesn't really matter where it's made. Buy cheap, sell cheap.

    That may offend the purists but you're not exactly rolling in coin are you so buy what your budget allows. I know what I'd rather have for the few months until my brain kicked in and I went and got a big boys bike.

    See ya on the road, although maybe not at this rate.

    Cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by DR650gary View Post
    Really? Less reliable than an almost 20 year old bike that has had it's nuts wrung off by every learner that thought he could score chicks by doing wheelies? And maybe they were right

    Are you wearing Italian shoes or Chinese knockoffs? Any of your clothing Prada? A cheap bike is just that. Doesn't really matter where it's made. Buy cheap, sell cheap.

    That may offend the purists but you're not exactly rolling in coin are you so buy what your budget allows. I know what I'd rather have for the few months until my brain kicked in and I went and got a big boys bike.

    See ya on the road, although maybe not at this rate.

    Cheers
    Why don't you tell her what you really think

    @ Hotkebab, The lifan are a knockoff of the Honda, I think. With normal maintenance it should last long enough for you to get your full licence, and it won't matter if you trash it.
    But..... You seem to have your heart set on an NXR, so negotiate with the seller, (who is a dealer). But don't insult him with a stupid offer, they may be quite helpfull with getting the bike road legal.
    And hurry up... summer is just about here and you'd rather be riding than looking at bikes on trademe, right ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ender EnZed View Post
    You may have just replied to the wrong person. May have, otherwise I'm confused.
    Nope, just giving you the points for being observant and spotting the missing bits.

    Just giving Hotkebab the hurry up. There is no perfect bike, just a goodie for now

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    The NXR is a back up option just in case.

    Now concerning this bike - http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/List...x?id=415183256
    Here was the dialogue exchanged;

    Me:
    I noticed on your Trademe listing that your Honda XRB didn't have any indicators. Does the motorcycle come with any?

    Him: Yes, I have two. But the orange lenses on them are missing. But you could pick up some new ones from a Honda shop for a couple of bucks each.

    Me:
    Hows the wiring? Do you know when it was last checked? When was the last time a WOF was done? What sort of registration was on the Honda XRB?

    Him: The wiring is fine. The indicators worked fine before I took them off. I kept knocking them when I carried tools on the bike so I took them off. The rego was a farm rego which means its legal on the road within 50kms of the farm. So legally it did not required a WOF. I service the bike myself every six months which includes changing oil, cleaning the air filter, tightening brakes or replacing pads, adjusting the clutch and chain tension, lubricating the the bike, testing and changing the spark plug if it needs to, emptying the bowl of the carburetor, cleaning the battery terminals and filling the battery if needed.

    Me: Would the bike pass WOF inspection in its current condition?

    Him: No, as the indicators are not present and the back tire is worn.

    These things should be easy enough to sort out, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hotkebab View Post
    The NXR is a back up option just in case.

    Now concerning this bike -

    Me: Would the bike pass WOF inspection in its current condition?

    Him: No, as the indicators are not present and the back tire is worn.

    These things should be easy enough to sort out, right?
    If it's just the indicators and tyre then....

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    Quote Originally Posted by JATZ View Post
    If it's just the indicators and tyre then....
    I've arranged to check it out next weekend so fingers crossed.

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    Lightbulb

    It's going to need 4 indicators to get a WOF, so make sure you know what two complete units plus two lenses plus 4 bulbs would cost you... It could easily be more than the tyre. Check the 'good' tyre is DOT approved, as well, or it won't pass. Cheers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chasio View Post
    It's going to need 4 indicators to get a WOF, so make sure you know what two complete units plus two lenses plus 4 bulbs would cost you... It could easily be more than the tyre. Check the 'good' tyre is DOT approved, as well, or it won't pass. Cheers.
    I'll probably get everything fitted by a mechanic as I have no experience behind what is required to get a bike ready for the road. I'll most likely buy new lights and new dual sport tires altogether.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hotkebab View Post
    I'll probably get everything fitted by a mechanic as I have no experience behind what is required to get a bike ready for the road. I'll most likely buy new lights and new dual sport tires altogether.
    If you have no one able to do that for you, you may need to budget up to $400 for all that. I would keep looking. You would then need to find out the reg costs unless you were able to use it adequately with farm reg on it.

    This may be an expensive bike to get back on the road.

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    Since you started this thread nearly a month and a half ago you have had overwhelming support from numerous people and half a dozen good bikes have come and gone on Trade Me, stop fluffing around like an old woman and buy a bloody bike!

    Here is my final advice:

    1 - Four proven solid and reliable road/trail bikes are Honda, Suzuki, Kawasaki and Yamaha. By any one of these in reasonable tidy condition and you pretty much can't go wrong

    2 - Buy one that is road registered so there is no mucking around or hidden costs, you can buy it, pick it up, then start riding immediately

    3 - Paying someone to do maintenance is not the way to go about it, not only does it cost a truckload of money you will bypass the necessity of knowing your bike and how to perform general maintenance and field repairs. For about $50 buy a Clymer manual and start learning general bike maintenance, when following the step by step manual it is a piece of cake, any 10 year old kid could do it

    I've seen more fast paced proactive decision making from retired elderly ladies in my Nanas knitting club, just make it happen and get riding!

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    Im with DR650gary on this, if you're paying for a shop mechanic to do the work, at $80 an hour, expect prob 2 hrs labour, including his smoko break.
    If you know what you're looking for, you can pick up cheap dual purpose tyres on Trademe, but again, with shipping and fitting, expect another $100 total for a tyre.

    The real hassle with the XRB is the farm rego - unless you leave is as a farm rego, highly dodgy and open for scutinisation by the law, as your'e not supposed to use it further than 50km from home, you'll have to upgrade to standard road user rego, $600 a year, plus the WOF for $35.

    Please check wheel bearings and headset bearings for any play before you hand over any money, the bearings aren't show stoppers to buy, but fitting will be another 2 hours labour for a shop do do. The WOF man will be hard on these checks.

    I hate to say this, but with a new WOF and 6months rego, the Lifan is still a good buy at $1400, because most likely hasn't been floggged for the last 10 years. You dont' have to keep it forever, just get some experience on dualsports, find out what you like and move on up.
    The Lifan GY200 Huntaways retail new around $3500, someone else has already taken the devalue hit from new, you'd probably lose $300-400 onselling the Lifan, that's good simple economics if you ask me. Cheap bike hire is how I look at it

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    Quote Originally Posted by ADVGD View Post
    Here is my final advice:

    1 - Four proven solid and reliable road/trail bikes are Honda, Suzuki, Kawasaki and Yamaha. By any one of these in reasonable tidy condition and you pretty much can't go wrong

    2 - Buy one that is road registered so there is no mucking around or hidden costs, you can buy it, pick it up, then start riding immediately
    Couldnt agree more, great advice ...... would be a good idea to follow it.
    Here for a good time, not necessarily a long time

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    Quote Originally Posted by ADVGD View Post
    I've seen more fast paced proactive decision making from retired elderly ladies in my Nanas knitting club, just make it happen and get riding!
    Now you're not the sort of guy are you that takes up knitting just to pick up chicks are you?

    Apart from your lecherous comments , # 1 on the hurry up

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    Quote Originally Posted by CrazyFrog View Post
    Im with DR650gary on this, if you're paying for a shop mechanic to do the work, at $80 an hour, expect prob 2 hrs labour, including his smoko break.
    If you know what you're looking for, you can pick up cheap dual purpose tyres on Trademe, but again, with shipping and fitting, expect another $100 total for a tyre.

    The real hassle with the XRB is the farm rego - unless you leave is as a farm rego, highly dodgy and open for scutinisation by the law, as your'e not supposed to use it further than 50km from home, you'll have to upgrade to standard road user rego, $600 a year, plus the WOF for $35.

    Please check wheel bearings and headset bearings for any play before you hand over any money, the bearings aren't show stoppers to buy, but fitting will be another 2 hours labour for a shop do do. The WOF man will be hard on these checks.

    I hate to say this, but with a new WOF and 6months rego, the Lifan is still a good buy at $1400, because most likely hasn't been floggged for the last 10 years. You dont' have to keep it forever, just get some experience on dualsports, find out what you like and move on up.
    The Lifan GY200 Huntaways retail new around $3500, someone else has already taken the devalue hit from new, you'd probably lose $300-400 onselling the Lifan, that's good simple economics if you ask me. Cheap bike hire is how I look at it
    Economically that could indeed make sense for not-super-challenging use and an owner not really up for greasy fingers. Has anyone on here actually ridden a Lifan?

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