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[richban]

God I'm bored. When is it time to go racing? Bored bored bored. Who gunna come second in the GP then. Third is my usual spot so thats taken.

[Henk]

Bucket sidecars when they come back

They are coming back, believe.

[Pumba]

God I'm bored. When is it time to go racing? Bored bored bored. Who gunna come second in the GP then. Third is my usual spot so thats taken.

I recon about 108 hours away, give or take.

[koba]

There are fuck all rules really. Just make a legal bucket like everyone else. Then when you get sick of it the kid you sell it too has no issuse when he wants to race at another club event.

+1


Now My bit...

I think one under-rated aspect of buckets as compared to "big" road racing is the lack of classes.

A typical club meet is diluted across around TEN classes. We have two, we could probably do with a C grade sometime soon but that's another topic. My point is we have good, competitive fields.


Restrictions such as "std this, std that" only work if enforced, what we have now is much more workable for our needs.
My experience and observation tells me heavily controlled classes achieve little of their objectives.

Either you:
1) Do it properly like Karts and have regular inspections and all kind of enforcement. You would end up with something like Karts.
2) Do it half arsed (How it would happen in NZ bike racing) and open the way for chronic cheating without mitigating the advantages people with better technical or financial backing will always have.

I notice many well intended suggestions of rule changes and how to make things "better". They tend to come from people new, or relativity new, to the particular niche. (Not just talking bikes here) Perhaps it is because those who have been around a bit longer (not me) have more insight into why things have evolved to be how they are. (I'm aware that may sound like me being a hubristic cunt, I really don't mean it that way.)

Leave it how it is, it works, it's growing and it is a fucking good hoot!

[CHOPPA]

+1


Now My bit...

I think one under-rated aspect of buckets as compared to "big" road racing is the lack of classes.

A typical club meet is diluted across around TEN classes. We have two, we could probably do with a C grade sometime soon but that's another topic. My point is we have good, competitive fields.


Restrictions such as "std this, std that" only work if enforced, what we have now is much more workable for our needs.
My experience and observation tells me heavily controlled classes achieve little of their objectives.

Either you:
1) Do it properly like Karts and have regular inspections and all kind of enforcement. You would end up with something like Karts.
2) Do it half arsed (How it would happen in NZ bike racing) and open the way for chronic cheating without mitigating the advantages people with better technical or financial backing will always have.

I notice many well intended suggestions of rule changes and how to make things "better". They tend to come from people new, or relativity new, to the particular niche. (Not just talking bikes here) Perhaps it is because those who have been around a bit longer (not me) have more insight into why things have evolved to be how they are. (I'm aware that may sound like me being a hubristic cunt, I really don't mean it that way.)

Leave it how it is, it works, it's growing and it is a fucking good hoot!

Its good to have the thought from guys that have lots of experience and thats the sort of info I was after.

[underpowered80]

we run a rs gp125 frame with water cooled kawasaki ar80 .its a road going sports bike available in britian and singapore.we run a kx80 moddified chamber and ignition.at ruapuna b track and full track its a top 10 placed bike we have great battles with PAUL GOOCH ON HIS FXR. WE TRIED SOMETHING DIFFERENT AND IT WORKS .

JUSTIN

[CHOPPA]

we run a rs gp125 frame with water cooled kawasaki ar80 .its a road going sports bike available in britian and singapore.we run a kx80 moddified chamber and ignition.at ruapuna b track and full track its a top 10 placed bike we have great battles with PAUL GOOCH ON HIS FXR. WE TRIED SOMETHING DIFFERENT AND IT WORKS .

JUSTIN

Sounds very much like a project im doing at the mo, good to hear!

[F5 Dave]

yeah it didn't go too bad & is a nice & small engine (I had the orange MB in RS at Ruapuna BOB).

[underpowered80]

My son currently runs a KAWASAKI AR80 water cooled motor in a HONDA RS GP 125 frame . The motor was out of a road bike common to AISA and Britian. This bike is always in the top ten bikes at Ruapuna or Greymouth street races. If you compare the AR80 with the KX80 you will not find any difference except 2nd gear.The pipe we use is off a KX80 with some modifications.It dose not have the speed of the CBR 150 or the top FXR 150 .If we like we can purchase a 100cc kit .But my son enjoys mixxing it with the FXR 150s .And it has been reliable.I beleive 80 and 85cc motors can provide good fun and cheap racing.

ROBIN

[CHOPPA]

My son currently runs a KAWASAKI AR80 water cooled motor in a HONDA RS GP 125 frame . The motor was out of a road bike common to AISA and Britian. This bike is always in the top ten bikes at Ruapuna or Greymouth street races. If you compare the AR80 with the KX80 you will not find any difference except 2nd gear.The pipe we use is off a KX80 with some modifications.It dose not have the speed of the CBR 150 or the top FXR 150 .If we like we can purchase a 100cc kit .But my son enjoys mixxing it with the FXR 150s .And it has been reliable.I beleive 80 and 85cc motors can provide good fun and cheap racing.

ROBIN

Where did you get the information regarding the engines? From my research the AR80 engine is completely different to a KX80 engine...

[CHOPPA]

These are the best 2 engine pics I could find...

[underpowered80]

THAT IS AN OLD STYLE MOTOR .GO TO pics OF KAWASAKI AR80 1999
SOMETIMES ALSO CALLED NINJA

ROBIN

[underpowered80]

the pic of the AR80 you have is an old version,
if you type in 1999 kawasaki Ar80 water cooled you should get a little road bike come up that looks like a small version of a KR 150.
it is a good engine to run , but still could do with some extra cc's.
they are popular in singapore and the older air cooled models were run in the uk in minature road race in the 80's

[CHOPPA]

the pic of the AR80 you have is an old version,
if you type in 1999 kawasaki Ar80 water cooled you should get a little road bike come up that looks like a small version of a KR 150.
it is a good engine to run , but still could do with some extra cc's.
they are popular in singapore and the older air cooled models were run in the uk in minature road race in the 80's

Im very keen to find out because I could essentially run a KX100....

Check out this picture, this is the last model of AR80 that was produced and this has the same engine....

If you could show me an AR80 with the same engine as a KX80 or some literature id be a happy man!

[CHOPPA]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kawasaki_AR-80K