Is John Key the man to lead NZ?

[SMOKEU]

you are a hateful little fucker.

Thanks for the compliment.

Given what Wall Street is all about, can you honestly tell me that any group running it wouldn't be a corrupt bunch of self serving arseholes within a decade?

You've got a point there...

[jasonu]

he’s a cracker bloke with a hot missus,

Nz is facing an increasingly difficult period, so can we afford a pm who may be slick and smart, but lacks judgement and the ability to handle a crisis under pressure?

who else is there?????
If anyone thinks Phil Goff and his monkeys can do the job they are dreaming!

[Swoop]

...the most disingenuous, vindictive lying son of a botch job Prime Minister we’ve had in a long while....

It hasn't been very long. Heilen Klerke was lower than bottom-feeding scum and her retarded finance minister really needed to back to playschool to entertain people of like-minded mentality.

Getting liarbour involved in anything financial, is a crisis waiting to happen.

[Flip]

Sounds to me like our wee Johnny is a bit of a control freak!

Smokeu, you are a moron.

[Headbanger]

Given what Wall Street is all about, can you honestly tell me that any group running it wouldn't be a corrupt bunch of self serving arseholes within a decade?

A decade?

They have to be that way to get a start, its part of the job criteria...

[lakedaemonian]

No matter how bad we perceive it is or could get here.......in the US it's just simply out of control.

You should have a look at the latest 60 Minutes(US version).

Insider trader is illegal for everyone......except if you are a member of the US Congress...where it's perfectly legal to trade/profit from things like....I don't know....shorting the Lehman Brothers and market collapse a few years a go for millions maybe? Yup...legal for Congress....but if you're Joe Bloggs and do it you go to jail.

And then there's John Corzine...former head of JP Morgan.....then US Democrat Senator, then Governor of the State of New Jersey.....then head of failed trading firm that "lost"(Stole) about a billion $Kiwi$ and I doubt he will even be arrested let alone spend time in jail.

That's just in the past WEEK.

NO matter how flawed our democratic process is in NZ........it could be worse...much worse.

Just wanted to chuck that in there for some perspective.

And the whole throwing jews in the oven because "it's all their fault" thing is getting a bit weird and spooky.

But I guess it's about that time for some far right wing mirror opposites of the Baader Meinhoff Gang and Red Army Faction to start trouble in Europe again.

The next couple of years are going to be "exciting"

[Oblivion]

John Key has one hell of a poker face. Personally, I think that he is a complete asshole, not the man of integrity that we think that he is. The whole teacup saga should be over by now, Hell it shouldn't have even started. All he needed to do was to say, " I am deeply sorry for what I said" (Or something simiar) And boom shitstorm over. The more he denies it the bigger this will become. For now, I'm staying well away from the polling booth until someone worthy steps up to the plate.

Like hell someone like that will appear anytime soon.

Good use of time my ass.

[Berries]

He's a complete twat for saying anything controversial in a public place when there were invited media around. What did he expect? Who here would have a conversation when there is some strange object on the table within arms reach? You'd check it out. Some dude who just left the table may have forgotten his sunnies, his wallet stuffed full of cash, a bag of P or his dictaphone. The whole thing has been a set up from the beginning.

But then, if you're happy with the way the country has been going vote for him. If you're not, don't. Seems fairly simple to me, can't see what all the fuss is about.

[Subike]

I need to remember he is the leader of the government that gave the ACC port folio to...

that wanker Smith.

And now after shit loads of bullshit, false statistics, etc, we are paying through the nose to ride our bikes

You recommend voting for the fuckers that shafted us?

Na Key and his Bunnies can fuck off

Who Will replace them?

Im fucked if I know ,

But national is not getting my vote, they ignored us after Bike-oi.......Least we forget who emptied our wallets

[Usarka]

Fuck this personality politics.

But....

Funny how a currency trader multi-millionare doesn't know the old adage of buy low sell high.

Bye bye assets at bargain basement prices

[Winston001]

I haven't read the whole thread so forgive me if the point has been made previously.

The facts - and the law, are simple.

Key and Banks met. Photos etc were taken. Then the media/public event ended. Banks and Key could then have arranged to go to a strip club, it would still be a private conversation.

There is nothing in law or civil behaviour which says journalists and cameramen have unlimited rights at all times and places to record other people without consent. Being a politician does not remove rights which we all have.

However if a recording was made, or a lipreader employed, or somebody simply eavesdropped, ethically and morally its still a private conversation. Not for passing on to anyone else. Repeating the conversation is the problem. That's the breach of privacy.

There is no public interest to be served. An interesting story for journalists - yes. But nothing of great public moment.

[Winston001]

Incidentally I'm happy to be proven wrong by the High Court but it'll be a surprise.


Anyway, in this day and age privacy is a big deal. Each of us should be aware of that and jealous of protecting ourselves. There are surveillance cameras everywhere, microphones are tiny and available from Dick Smith. Have you never had a moment when you said something you regretted - or could be taken out of context? How'd you feel if a motorist pic'd you while speeding? It can be done. You are on a bike...you asked for it.

[pete376403]

If you really think key is good for new zealand, you should research Andy Krieger, who his broker was at Bankers Trust, and what he (Krieger) did to the NZ currency

Correction not Merril Lynch, Bankers Trust.
Full story here (warning: lots of words, no pictures)
http://voter08.wordpress.com/john-ke...true-or-false/

[Spearfish]

Fuck this personality politics.

But....

Funny how a currency trader multi-millionare doesn't know the old adage of buy low sell high.

Bye bye assets at bargain basement prices

He sorta has, NZ govt bonds are selling because we are considered safer than most other currency (not surprisingly) to the tune of 8 billion reissued so far. Its driving down the amount of interest NZ has to pay on its loans. Piss around to much with flaky policy buying votes and it will swing back the other way, into the red we could say?

[oldrider]

I need to remember he is the leader of the government that gave the ACC port folio to...

that wanker Smith.

And now after shit loads of bullshit, false statistics, etc, we are paying through the nose to ride our bikes

You recommend voting for the fuckers that shafted us?

Na Key and his Bunnies can fuck off

Who Will replace them?

Im fucked if I know ,

But national is not getting my vote, they ignored us after Bike-oi.......Least we forget who emptied our wallets

I feel the same as you about the ACC bullshit, I'm not a National voter by tradition, just voted for the local candidate last time and gave ACT the party vote because of their stand on crime.

I thought The Brash leadership coup thingy was badly done but as Rodney was never really an ACT leader I thought maybe Brash could be a slight improvement because of his political understanding of ACT policies, so I was waiting to see!

Then the silly fuckers put Banks up for Rodney's seat, well IMHO Banks is a fucking idiot who doesn't know his left from his right and is just another political opportunist in the same cut as Winston Peters FFS!

So that settled it for me .... no vote for ACT .... but who the hell is there to vote for?

I will be voting for change from MMP to STV but that might be all .... maybe I will give "Democrats for Social Credit" a couple of vote's at least they are outspoken against the stinking monetary system which IMHO is the cause of most of our problems anyway!

Call it a protest vote, it's better than joining up with the occupy (where ever?) twits and breading flies in central city!