Occupy Dunedin?

[Virago]

...Mini-dictatorships eh, is that how we're describing governing by consensus these days. I thought that was how democracy was supposed to work. You may be correct that a lot of the sheeple can't handle the confrontation, or don't see it as their problem...

Yes.

By all means, fight for what you believe in. But DON'T claim to represent the rest of us.

Those deranged crackpots who claim to represent the 99% will invariably follow up their self-proclamation with derogatory and dismissive remarks about those who object to such "representation".

...And what complete and utter fuckin idiots those ignorant 99% are! I suppose they excuse it by denying that these social issues exist and aren't part of a failed system, but are WHOLLY the fault of each individual and just can't be bothered to get passed that thought, or don't have the mental capacity to be able to see any further...

...sheeple...

I rest my case.

[mashman]

Yes.

By all means, fight for what you believe in. But DON'T claim to represent the rest of us.

Those deranged crackpots who claim to represent the 99% will invariably follow up their self-proclamation with derogatory and dismissive remarks about those who object to such "representation".

I rest my case.

I haven't heard them say that... and as you've made plainly clear that you are not part of the 99%, I fail to see how you see that they are claiming to represent you.

Again with the claims of representation... let it go man ... Where the no wanna be 99% will continue to do what they do best, bury their heads in the sand and popup every now and then and give the "defenceless" a kickin because they're a drain on society (oh the irony)...

and they'll drag out the crackpot label to have a go at the crackpots for daring to offer a different perspective, that they deny because it isn't the norm, and continually claim that the crackpots are trying to represent them...

[Virago]

I haven't heard them say that... and as you've made plainly clear that you are not part of the 99%, I fail to see how you see that they are claiming to represent you....

The old "If you're not with us, you're against us" ploy, eh...?

Carry on...

[mashman]

The old "If you're not with us, you're against us" ploy, eh...?

Carry on...

, nope, but it doesn't help.

[misterO]

can't be bothered to get passed that thought, or don't have the mental capacity to be able to see any further.

I can't get passed (sic) the thought that the Occupy Dunedin group needs a better spokesperson.

Insert sub-moronic smiling emoticon ---> here <---

[mashman]

I can't get passed (sic) the thought that the Occupy Dunedin group needs a better spokesperson.

Insert sub-moronic smiling emoticon ---> <---

you have a point, I just can't figure out what it is... but that not being able to get passed the thought sounded alarmingly familiar.

[FJRider]

I haven't heard them say that... and as you've made plainly clear that you are not part of the 99%, I fail to see how you see that they are claiming to represent you.

Perhaps ... because he believes he's not part of the 1% ...

Again with the claims of representation... let it go man ... Where the no wanna be 99% will continue to do what they do best, bury their heads in the sand and popup every now and then and give the "defenceless" a kickin because they're a drain on society (oh the irony)...

I find it funny how the "defenceless" people that are "a drain on society" ... want a ... greater ??? ... share of the wealth of the society ... they either not wish to take part in, or contribute to in any way of value ... to that society. Then claim they HAVE the support of that society ...

and they'll drag out the crackpot label to have a go at the crackpots for daring to offer a different perspective, that they deny because it isn't the norm, and continually claim that the crackpots are trying to represent them...

The funny thing is ... the perspective changes, the higher you get ... have you not figured THAT out ... ??? Climb a few more steps up the ladder yourself and admire the view ...

[mashman]

Why haven't I heard one political candidate championing their cause?

http://video.msnbc.msn.com/up-with-c...66471#45366471

[mashman]

Perhaps ... because he believes he's not part of the 1% ...

I find it funny how the "defenceless" people that are "a drain on society" ... want a ... greater ??? ... share of the wealth of the society ... they either not wish to take part in, or contribute to in any way of value ... to that society. Then claim they HAVE the support of that society ...

The funny thing is ... the perspective changes, the higher you get ... have you not figured THAT out ... ??? Climb a few more steps up the ladder yourself and admire the view ...

I get the maths

Is that what they want? I'm not so sure, not so sure at all. There are still defenceless people that want to work, or do work unbelievable hours in multiple jobs just to make ends meet too, and yet they get lumped into the same category as those who want to put absolutely no effort in (both ends of the scale) because they "take" assistance from the govt. Everyone should have the support of society and not be "marginalised" because of the perceived value they return. Otherwise those workin 60 hours per week in multiple jobs would be drastically better off... yet they aren't. I find that hard to swallow I'm afraid. And yes, it surprises me that more don't share my surprise.

I already have "A" penthouse view and am deriving huge pleasure from it.

[scumdog]

Hey, I went past the Octagon in Dunners yesterday and saw a heap of people camped there, are they Christchurch refugees or something?

Poor buggers looked abit damp....

[FJRider]

Hey, I went past the Octagon in Dunners yesterday and saw a heap of people camped there, are they Christchurch refugees or something?

Poor buggers looked abit damp....

Oh dear ... how sad ... never mind ...

Perhaps they should go occupy Miami ...

[BoristheBiter]

I know we're not, didn't say we were.

True.. and you kinda lost me there. The system serves criminals? erm.......

It's not up to me to convince you of anything. @ the protesters being on their own campus having a peaceful protest being enough of a justification for pepper spraying them because they won't move. That has to be one of the most fucked up statements I've seen anyone utter on this site... and following that logic, if wall street et al hadn't been doing what they have for so many years, there wouldn't be the need for the protesters... so it's still the fault of wall street et al that they're there. An occupational hazard eh... so you'd be happy if any protest was met with similar force, like an ACC protest, or public servant strikes, maybe anti child violence protests etc...?

And what complete and utter fuckin idiots those ignorant 99% are! I suppose they excuse it by denying that these social issues exist and aren't part of a failed system, but are WHOLLY the fault of each individual and just can't be bothered to get passed that thought, or don't have the mental capacity to be able to see any further.

You are right it is not up to you to convince me but seeing as the protesters can't I was thinking that some of there believers might be able to shed some light on it for the rest of us but I guess that was too much to hope for.

Why is a fucked up statement, its true. They were told to move or get sprayed, they didn't move, they got sprayed. cause and effect.

When we went to Wellington to protest the ACC levies we came, gave our message and went home. If we had camped on Parliament we would have been met withe the same response.

I am all for protest, whether i believe in it or not, but if you want to be confrontational expect the consequences.

Have you thought if 99% don't think the systems fucked maybe you're just wrong and your types are wholly at fault??
Because from where I'm sitting it looks like you are.

[Oscar]

Sorry, all I read there was, waaaaaaaaaaa mummy they're not playing fair by following the rules... Fuckin hilarious. Tears, I have tears, messing up squares aaaaaaaaaaaa ha ha ha haaaaaaaaaaaaa... mum, they're messing up the square too.
ha ha haaaaaaaaa, honestly, do you do this on purpose... A politician stepping up to champion anything other than the political status quo. Cheers Oscar, I needed that.



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That's pretty much the response I figured I'd get.
Childish nonsense from an idiot who appears to be typical of the "occupy wherever" group (apart from apparently either not owning a tent or being to lazy to occupy anything other than his keyboard).

[Oscar]

http://video.msnbc.msn.com/up-with-c...66471#45366471

Error 404 supports your cause?

You can stop trying - I came to the conclusion you were an idiot quite some time ago.

[mashman]

You are right it is not up to you to convince me but seeing as the protesters can't I was thinking that some of there believers might be able to shed some light on it for the rest of us but I guess that was too much to hope for.

Why is a fucked up statement, its true. They were told to move or get sprayed, they didn't move, they got sprayed. cause and effect.

When we went to Wellington to protest the ACC levies we came, gave our message and went home. If we had camped on Parliament we would have been met withe the same response.

I am all for protest, whether i believe in it or not, but if you want to be confrontational expect the consequences.

Have you thought if 99% don't think the systems fucked maybe you're just wrong and your types are wholly at fault??
Because from where I'm sitting it looks like you are.

Have you been and spoken with the protesters?

They weren't doing anything illegal... but by all means go ahead and mace them because they won't do what a policeman says... that's fucked up imo. Funny, I didn't see the cops when the students followed up the protest by silently lining the path to the principles car, sitting cross legged in the same way as the sprayed folk. Nothing like a little consistency.

There's a fundamental difference? If we had camped on parliaments grounds we may have had a completely different outcome.

@ confrontational. A peaceful protest is just that, nothing confrontational about it other than pissing someone off.

Yes I have considered it at quite some length. It's a life changer . If I can attribute a single societal issue to the system, then the system is at fault. As you know yourself, there are many issues and NONE of them are improving. My conclusion is that the system is at fault... after all we change the people in charge and they change their (and by default society's) tactics (tui?) and yet nothing changes. My vote goes against the system.