Scum at the track: they are amongst us!

**crazy man** · 19th November 2011, 18:05

l use to build trailers for a living one thing to cheak that they were not blank hubs drill and had the studs put in by a ruff ass ! if the
studs are not in the middle of the hole and the tapers on the nuts and wheels dont line up! they will come of!
!

**roogazza** · 20th November 2011, 07:46

Quite disturbing if someone is doing this stuff, and must be caught. I consider myself lucky hearing about trailer woes. Travelled round the country for years with trailers bouncing around on the back of a car and not at 90kph either, mostly 90Mph !
Never had a failure apart from ropes breaking and a RD350 cartwheeling down the road heading to Chch.
Mainly punctures from memory and had to stuff grass in a tyre once to get to Bay Park.
Catch this prick, if he is in fact out there.

**Disco Dan** · 20th November 2011, 09:02

I have a b/w camera and monitor if it would help

Used to be pointed at my bikes and attached to a VCR recording 24/7 - since selling my bikes it has remained unused.

You could 'hire' someone to keep an eye out from a distance armed with a camera phone. I'd do it - would love to get paid to sit in the pits for the day!

**Robert Taylor** · 20th November 2011, 10:17

Hey Biggles! You came to us because the suspension ''setup'' on your bikes had been pretty ''scummy'' and reflecting in not so good results for you. It looks like you also need to change your trailer setup person.

**Owl** · 20th November 2011, 11:25

Originally Posted by RobGassit

If I wasn't paranoid about wheel bearings from when I used to race boats I would never have found it.

You had wheels on your boat?

**Biggles08** · 20th November 2011, 12:23

Originally Posted by Robert Taylor

Hey Biggles! You came to us because the suspension ''setup'' on your bikes had been pretty ''scummy'' and reflecting in not so good results for you. It looks like you also need to change your trailer setup person.

Ha! funny enough, my trailer seems to have no dampening effect either!!! Might need some quality gold leaf springs put in it!

**codgyoleracer** · 20th November 2011, 19:50

Originally Posted by crazy man

l use to build trailers for a living one thing to cheak that they were not blank hubs drill and had the studs put in by a ruff ass ! if the
studs are not in the middle of the hole and the tapers on the nuts and wheels dont line up! they will come of!
!

Three things i do know:
1) You are one ugly S.O.B Crazyman
2) Interesting how these supposed "organised crime types" with a fetish for wheel nuts owned but "the haves' are choosing trailers instead of flashy cars
3) Its been my experience that the types that would do this type of thing are typically too bone idle to carry anything as heavy as a whell wrench around with em

:-)

**Biggles08** · 20th November 2011, 21:13

Originally Posted by codgyoleracer

2) Interesting how these supposed "organised crime types" with a fetish for wheel nuts owned but "the haves' are choosing trailers instead of flashy cars
:-)

My trailer was left at Taupo track by itself over night on the Saturday...my car wasn't (and its not that flashy so that might be why too

).

**codgyoleracer** · 21st November 2011, 07:10

Originally Posted by Biggles08

My trailer was left at Taupo track by itself over night on the Saturday...my car wasn't (and its not that flashy so that might be why too

).

Maybe the "left overnight" comment should have been in the first post....... ?

**RobGassit** · 21st November 2011, 07:44

Loosened wheel nuts would be noticed immediately in a car, not so a trailer. It's quite interesting how many people on here think Biggles is just delusional and that there has to be an engineering solution to the problem. You may have lived sheltered lives I suspect. There are plenty of crazy and angry people out there to fuck with you. If you doubt it read the paper. Arsonists are one example of WTF! The male nurse in OZ who just BBQ'd his clients is a classic.
My trailer has done thousands of trouble free kms. After a round at Taupo, ONLY the non locking nuts on the wheel are found loose! Give me a phuckin break people. And I suppose the Tie Down cut it's own wrist rather than hold down a phuckin bucket? Actually that's quite believable now I think about it.

**Biggles08** · 21st November 2011, 09:45

Originally Posted by codgyoleracer

Maybe the "left overnight" comment should have been in the first post....... ?

Sorry Glen...my bad. Although the intent was to raise awareness of this event happening allowing anyone that knew information on who may have been responsible the opportunity to come forward. It was not necessarily to give evidence as to collaborate my opinion of how/when it happened. I realize now after this thread people are having difficulty in believing someone could do this to other people and hence this information further backs up the reasons I have come to this conclusion.

More information is the trailer was parked in Taupo township (on the back of the car) for approximately 1/2 hour at about 4:30pm on the sunday as we had a quick Ale with Wolfpack Racing prior to heading back to Auckland (I don't believe this information is relevant however for the sake of sharing information there you go).

Regardless of the timing, I do still believe scum are amongst us at the track and that our trailer was victim of malicious actions of such scum. I didn't come down in the last rain shower and I understand the engineering of how these wheels can and do come loose in normal operation, but I am also not blind to the facts as they present themselves and the unlikely mathematical chances of how this could happen by chance. I have a technical mind like some of those who have posted on here (hell its my job to), but I do know that x2 wheel nuts do not come loose to such an extent as to fall off in exactly the same pattern on every wheel in one trip to Taupo and back (as that was the time frame we are talking about). I can only presume the 4th wheel that almost came completely off also had x2 wheel nuts removed and the x3 remaining worked themselves loose on the return trip.

Believe as you will, I will be a lot more vigilant in allowing people near our gear from this point forward as everyone becomes a suspect until more information is available.

**cowpoos** · 24th November 2011, 20:01

Originally Posted by Biggles08

So...I'm driving home tonight from Taupo, towing my new tandem trailer, when I start to hear a vibrating sound from the trailer...the vibrations start to get worse so I pull off the motorway just in time to see one wheel wobbling like it was about to come off. I pull over and check it to find it has only x1 bolt left on it (just) and x2 studs completely broken off from the wheel spinning on the studs with no bolts! I immediately check the other x3 wheels to find every one of them had x2 bolts missing from them!? All of them were taken off exactly the same and the ones that were left were starting to come loose too!

This is the second time this has happened to me in the last few race meetings. The last time I actually lost the left wheel when driving back from the final round of the Nationals. I was coming back up the bombay's when the left wheel started to vibrate and make a horrid noise so I began to pull over off the motorway when it came completely off.

I would have liked to think that this was just a freak accident and a coincidence but at the time I had my suspicions. Now after tonight I know someone out there is a chicken shit with no morals or balls enough to confront me with whatever there issue is! If you read this post, know that when I find out who you are...and I will find out, I will fuck your shit up...promise!

For all you out there who read this and are as concerned about this as I am, I would ask you to be vigilant in the pits and if any of you have any information you would like to share with me about this incident, please come forward and tell me knowing you will remain completely anonymous.

I am going to the police tomorrow to report this to them so when we find this prick there is some paper trail to go back on. See you in court fucker!

If you gear and trailer is been fucked with.....that is truely wanker-ish....not to mention the fact that some coward has to resort to that sort of behaviour out of is obviously jealously....of your situation or standings. if and or when its discovered who this person/persons are....make sure you let everyone know who it is....very fucking publically!! its a crock!!

chin up fella!!

ps: your still a twat!

**cowpoos** · 24th November 2011, 20:09

Originally Posted by codgyoleracer

A)

Personally i have seen countless things like drainplugs, pinch bolts, brake caliper bolts, fork clamp bolts, axles either fall out , chains seperate, chain carriers fail or loossen to the point of a problem occuring. In 99% of cases it has been an issue of usually the owner (racer) not being the best of mechanics and not doing the job right.

Yeah....I've seen sidecars before too