Occupy Dunedin?

[jazfender]

Better than bludging.

Maybe on the KB moral compass.

[scumdog]

What has happened to some of these people as per last couple of posts, i.e. the bludging comment?

No 'fire in the belly' no ambition with some - are they just on this planet to make the rest of us look/feel good?

It seems they are happy to wallow in their filth, suck on the tit of the tax-payer and living a "Groundhog Day" existence. (It sure as hell ain't 'living')

Not for this guy, I've always wanted things, travel etc and prepared to work my arse off to do so.

[Big Dave]

Probably a re-post - for Scummy. The other extreme.




Personally I think there is some validity in their protests. That banks can make Billions of Dollars profit, but that young families can't afford a house/mortgage is just one of them - on a local scale. But I also don't think that sitting in the town square will do a jot about it besides sell Murdoch more newspapers and give Bill here You Tube hits.

Mashy/Jazz are almost on the right track - ask the people, but the only way to do that is at the Polls, and that system is messed up too.

IMO all a schmuck like me can really do is HTFU and work harder/longer.

[mashman]

Personally I think there is some validity in their protests. That banks can make Billions of Dollars profit, but that young families can't afford a house/mortgage is just one of them - on a local scale. But I also don't think that sitting in the town square will do a jot about it besides sell Murdoch more newspapers and give Bill here You Tube hits.

Mashy/Jazz are almost on the right track - ask the people, but the only way to do that is at the Polls, and that system is messed up too.

IMO all a schmuck like me can really do is HTFU and work harder/longer.

What's the alternative? For me there's only 1 and as you mention, there are other people to consider and that it is pointless to storm the castle without a majority and I highly doubt that TPTB will give OWS the platform it would need to move the population to a point where they are educated on the issues and then are in a position to vote for a change is lifestyle. The only counter argument to that is that they should get elected. Whilst not a useless idea, I doubt very much that they'd get/be allowed the platform they need to educate the country.

Hey ho, will drudge on making as much money as I can to produce as much tax as I can so that people at the low end are in with a wiff of a shout at "making it".

[BoristheBiter]

What's the alternative? For me there's only 1 and as you mention, there are other people to consider and that it is pointless to storm the castle without a majority and I highly doubt that TPTB will give OWS the platform it would need to move the population to a point where they are educated on the issues and then are in a position to vote for a change is lifestyle. The only counter argument to that is that they should get elected. Whilst not a useless idea, I doubt very much that they'd get/be allowed the platform they need to educate the country.

Hey ho, will drudge on making as much money as I can to produce as much tax as I can so that people at the low end are in with a wiff of a shout at "making it".

I guess we will see tomorrow in regards whether or not they speak for the masses.
My guess is they don't.

[mashman]

I guess we will see tomorrow in regards whether or not they speak for the masses.
My guess is they don't.

No we won't. I'd be betting beer on the majority backing something entirely different... but it'll never happen because no politician would dare test those waters. My betting is that a large portion of those in education would agree, most of the "lower" class would agree and about half n half of the "middle" class would agree, leaving the 1% with less of a majority than they think. But you will need to educate these people giving them an alternative, if anyone has one that is... ooo ooo pick me pick me .

[Oscar]

No we won't. I'd be betting beer on the majority backing something entirely different... but it'll never happen because no politician would dare test those waters. My betting is that a large portion of those in education would agree, most of the "lower" class would agree and about half n half of the "middle" class would agree, leaving the 1% with less of a majority than they think. But you will need to educate these people giving them an alternative, if anyone has one that is... ooo ooo pick me pick me .

‎ If that many people supported whatever the fuck it is you are completely failing to ‎communicate here, politicians would be all over it.‎
Your fundamental failure is the assumption that politicians drive issues. They don't - ‎they follow. They're constantly and desperately searching for some issue that would garner votes. If you need proof, listen to Winston Peters - he's all over populist issues.‎

[mashman]

‎ If that many people supported whatever the fuck it is you are completely failing to ‎communicate here, politicians would be all over it.‎
Your fundamental failure is the assumption that politicians drive issues. They don't - ‎they follow. They're constantly and desperately searching for some issue that would garner votes. If you need proof, listen to Winston Peters - he's all over populist issues.‎

... no they wouldn't... because they're not being allowed to.

Thanks for telling me what I'm assuming. Can you explain to me what driving an issue means? Do politicians drive populist issues then?

[Oscar]

... no they wouldn't... because they're not being allowed to.

They're not being allowed to?
Why not?
Who's stopping them?

[mashman]

They're not being allowed to?
Why not?
Who's stopping them?

You mean you haven't heard. Oh well, can't say I'm surprised

[Oscar]

You mean you haven't heard. Oh well, can't say I'm surprised

If your posts here are representative, the only thing stopping them is a complete lack of cogent thought on their behalf.

To be fair though, your believe that the message is somehow being censored is a brilliant excuse for the fact that the message is being brought to us by half-wits and feral sub-humanoids...

[mashman]

If your posts here are representative, the only thing stopping them is a complete lack of cogent thought on their behalf.

To be fair though, your believe that the message is somehow being censored is a brilliant excuse for the fact that the message is being brought to us by half-wits and feral sub-humanoids...

They're not. I have explained this time and time again. Strange that you choose to ignore that. Then again, it is to be expected given your posts in that you constantly ignore any questions asked for either clarification or information purposes... Is there any reason, any reason at all, that I should give you the information and answers that you seek without be as cryptic as I feel at the time and laughing my ass of at your responses? Sorry for the question, I know how you dislike them... I am more than aware of your constant goal post shifting, though again that is not a surprise and that too makes me smile. You sure you're not JK? bagga another question...

Did I say the message was being censored?

[Oscar]

They're not. I have explained this time and time again. Strange that you choose to ignore that. Then again, it is to be expected given your posts in that you constantly ignore any questions asked for either clarification or information purposes... Is there any reason, any reason at all, that I should give you the information and answers that you seek without be as cryptic as I feel at the time and laughing my ass of at your responses? Sorry for the question, I know how you dislike them... I am more than aware of your constant goal post shifting, though again that is not a surprise and that too makes me smile. You sure you're not JK? bagga another question...

Did I say the message was being censored?

Repeating the same gibberish is not explaining anything.
The fact that you are laughing your ass off only goes to confirm your stupidity and/or ridiculously misplaced arrogance.

Notwithstanding that, if the message is being censored, how come we are discussing it here?
As I've mentioned previously, total indifference is not the same as apathy.

[mashman]

Repeating the same gibberish is not explaining anything.
The fact that you are laughing your ass off only goes to confirm your stupidity and/or ridiculously misplaced arrogance.

Notwithstanding that, if the message is being censored, how come we are discussing it here?
As I've mentioned previously, total indifference is not the same as apathy.

Now you have me lost. Which obviously isn't hard. Not sure which gibberish you're talking about?
There's no other theory that could explain my disposition?

What message?
Did I say anything to the contrary?

[Winston001]

Is there any reason, any reason at all, that I should give you the information and answers that you seek without be as cryptic as I feel at the time and laughing my ass of at your responses?

Good on you Mash for having ideas, asking questions, and thinking about stuff.


The above quote does underline a problem though. If other people think you aren't able to explain your ideas, then you'll be ignored. If others get the impression that you aren't sincere, then you'll be ignored. If ideas are important to you then the respect of others is crucial for any useful discussion.

Just my 2cents.