Occupy Dunedin?

[mashman]

Good on you Mash for having ideas, asking questions, and thinking about stuff.


The above quote does underline a problem though. If other people think you aren't able to explain your ideas, then you'll be ignored. If others get the impression that you aren't sincere, then you'll be ignored. If ideas are important to you then the respect of others is crucial for any useful discussion.

Just my 2cents.

Thanks for pointing that out... may I highlight the preceeding sentence to the one you quoted...

Then again, it is to be expected given your posts in that you constantly ignore any questions asked for either clarification or information purposes.

Whilst I don't mind pissing in the wind, I see no reason that I shouldn't amuse myself whilst doing it... especially if I feel I have reason to. Perhaps I went a might tad troll, and started answering questions with questions and offering cryptic statements that meant absolutely nothing. I still never received an answer to the question you quoted either.

As for useful discussion... where 1 side offers no answers or information when further clarification is being sought, and is met with yet more questions, I don't call that discussion.

[oldrider]

The protesters (occupy groups for 99%) are against the 1% ... the fincial controllers of the world! (Give me control of the finances of the world, I care not who makes the laws! Rothchild.)

OK, so how many of them in NZ voted against the 1% in the election yesterday?

There was only one party advocating against the 1% ... "the rest were in support"!

OK, what were the poll results for Democrats for Social Credit?

The protest by the 99% in this country has just been proved to be nothing less than stage managed bullshit!

[mashman]

The protest by the 99% in this country has just been proved to be nothing less than stage managed bullshit!

I believe and hope you are wrong. 99% (snigger) of the people on KB haven't a clue what the other 99% are about... mainly because they haven't tried to find out i.e. go there and ask them/discuss with them why they are there. Until everyone is made fully aware, I won't concede that that is what the majority want.

I'd love to know, of those who didn't vote, how many "sympathise" with the cause of the 99%. I'm pretty sure that some of those who did vote "sympathise"... yet as per, until they are a force to be reckoned with (and not seen as crackpots, hippies and wasters), the sheeple will follow the herd.

[FJRider]

I believe and hope you are wrong. 99% (snigger) of the people on KB haven't a clue what the other 99% are about... mainly because they haven't tried to find out i.e. go there and ask them/discuss with them why they are there. Until everyone is made fully aware, I won't concede that that is what the majority want.

The MAJORITY of those that VOTED ... made their opinion heard ... thusly... the MAJORITY have spoken ...

With my lack of political knowledge ... I still see the ONE party Goverment that is closer to FPP than one could expect from an MMP system. The Minor parties will remain just that. I await the desperate "concessions" they will have to make to get any of THEIR issues heard (let alone made law) ...

I'd love to know, of those who didn't vote, how many "sympathise" with the cause of the 99%. I'm pretty sure that some of those who did vote "sympathise"... yet as per, until they are a force to be reckoned with (and not seen as crackpots, hippies and wasters), the sheeple will follow the herd.

I think even the crackpots, hippies, and the wasters ... will now realise that no change to the system ... will come anytime soon ...

[mashman]

The MAJORITY of those that VOTED ... made their opinion heard ... thusly... the MAJORITY have spoken ...

With my lack of political knowledge ... I still see the ONE party Goverment that is closer to FPP than one could expect from an MMP system. The Minor parties will remain just that. I await the desperate "concessions" they will have to make to get any of THEIR issues heard (let alone made law) ...

I think even the crackpots, hippies, and the wasters ... will now realise that no change to the system ... will come anytime soon ...

true, of those that voted... amazing that most of them don't want asset sales, yet JK has decided he has a mandate to do it. I'll never understand that.

Ah well, I guess that's just the way it is... I'd had to be a minor party about now.

I hope you're wrong too.

[BoristheBiter]

true, of those that voted... amazing that most of them don't want asset sales, yet JK has decided he has a mandate to do it. I'll never understand that.

Ah well, I guess that's just the way it is... I'd had to be a minor party about now.

I hope you're wrong too.

I guess that is why you are not in politics.

He said to everyone he is going to sell assets, he got voted in with a massive majority. what does that tell you?
Yes I know you will call everyone sheeple......Blahblahblah.......

Hate to be a minor party, why? Oh that's right, its because they all said they wont work with National Look at them back peddling as quickly as the could on Sat night.

Other than ACT, UNF and National the rest might as well fuck off home as there is no point to them being there. Not like there was one in the first place.

[mashman]

I guess that is why you are not in politics.

He said to everyone he is going to sell assets, he got voted in with a massive majority. what does that tell you?
Yes I know you will call everyone sheeple......Blahblahblah.......

Hate to be a minor party, why? Oh that's right, its because they all said they wont work with National Look at them back peddling as quickly as the could on Sat night.

Other than ACT, UNF and National the rest might as well fuck off home as there is no point to them being there. Not like there was one in the first place.

I wouldn't last as a politician. My hypocrisy will only go so far... not so career politicians, or those who are only in it because it was on their bucket list it would seem.

That tells me that they are sheep funnily enough. We don't wanna sell the assets, but we'll vote for them anyway. Genius. That or the vote was rigged

Heh, true, the minor parties will likely have to bend their principles to have their good ideas heard... heaven forbid the nats would implement a policy because it makes sense and not expect some form of "payment" in return for doing the party a favour . That's one of the bigger reasons I detest these dickheads and their way of doing things. It never ceases to amaze me that they sell the people down the river in one way, so that they can have "their" policy implemented because it supposedly benefits us in a different way. I won't vote for that shite. Baaaaaaaaa.

I'm sure JK sees it that way. Hang on a minute are you ........ so much for working together for the sake of the country eh...

[BoristheBiter]

I wouldn't last as a politician. My hypocrisy will only go so far... not so career politicians, or those who are only in it because it was on their bucket list it would seem.

That tells me that they are sheep funnily enough. We don't wanna sell the assets, but we'll vote for them anyway. Genius. That or the vote was rigged

Heh, true, the minor parties will likely have to bend their principles to have their good ideas heard... heaven forbid the nats would implement a policy because it makes sense and not expect some form of "payment" in return for doing the party a favour . That's one of the bigger reasons I detest these dickheads and their way of doing things. It never ceases to amaze me that they sell the people down the river in one way, so that they can have "their" policy implemented because it supposedly benefits us in a different way. I won't vote for that shite. Baaaaaaaaa.

I'm sure JK sees it that way. Hang on a minute are you ........ so much for working together for the sake of the country eh...

I guess that's because you are wrong on so many levels and either don't know it, know it but won't expect it or still think that 99% are still with you.

[scissorhands]

Nothing is as it seems, all smoke and mirrors

Free accommodation for some, manipulated pawn for others

[mashman]

I guess that's because you are wrong on so many levels and either don't know it, know it but won't expect it or still think that 99% are still with you.

Probably wrong on some levels (still waiting for that to be proven , I WILL change my mind where the argument makes sense), know it but don't accept it (as there are other ways) and never expected the 99% to be with me in anyway shape or form, more the other way around.

[Oscar]

I wouldn't last as a politician. My hypocrisy will only go so far... not so career politicians, or those who are only in it because it was on their bucket list it would seem.

That tells me that they are sheep funnily enough. We don't wanna sell the assets, but we'll vote for them anyway. Genius. That or the vote was rigged

Heh, true, the minor parties will likely have to bend their principles to have their good ideas heard... heaven forbid the nats would implement a policy because it makes sense and not expect some form of "payment" in return for doing the party a favour . That's one of the bigger reasons I detest these dickheads and their way of doing things. It never ceases to amaze me that they sell the people down the river in one way, so that they can have "their" policy implemented because it supposedly benefits us in a different way. I won't vote for that shite. Baaaaaaaaa.

I'm sure JK sees it that way. Hang on a minute are you ........ so much for working together for the sake of the country eh...

Your hypocrisy may not go that far, but your stupidity and arrogance more than make ‎up for that. And for someone who craps on about the “99%” you seem to have fuck ‎all respect for democracy. ‎Did you actually vote?

As for the smaller parties having to bend their principles to get their idea heard, so ‎what? You’d be the first to complain if you thought a small party was getting ‎preferential treatment for policies that you opposed. ‎

[Berries]

Looks like they have had enough in Invercargill now, maybe we can have the Octagon back soon too.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/southland-tim...esters-pack-up

[mashman]

Pot kettle black, meh
Do I have no respect for democracy? What draws you to that conclusion? Don't I always vote? (do you have a point?)

Is that what I would do? I fail to see your point, again. Preferential treatment is a way of life n'est pas?... especially if more of the good ideas are coming from one area. Why would I complain about that? Would I sell my principles just to have one of my policies implemented, that would kinda depend on the policy and what I'd have to vote for in return. I object to the fact that I'd have to do something in return where the policy I put forwards would be of benefit to the people that had put me in parliament in the first place. If the policy is "sound" and can't get in on its own merit, without having to "curry favour", then there's something wrong. So no, I don't agree that party's should have to bend their principles to get their ideas heard. Is that so hard for you to comprehend?

It's not a fuckin game! although it would seem that the drama queens find it an acceptable way for a government to behave.

[mashman]

Looks like they have had enough in Invercargill now, maybe we can have the Octagon back soon too.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/southland-tim...esters-pack-up

ahhhhhh... couldn't last forever eh.

[BoristheBiter]

Pot kettle black, meh
Do I have no respect for democracy? What draws you to that conclusion? Don't I always vote? (do you have a point?)

Is that what I would do? I fail to see your point, again. Preferential treatment is a way of life n'est pas?... especially if more of the good ideas are coming from one area. Why would I complain about that? Would I sell my principles just to have one of my policies implemented, that would kinda depend on the policy and what I'd have to vote for in return. I object to the fact that I'd have to do something in return where the policy I put forwards would be of benefit to the people that had put me in parliament in the first place. If the policy is "sound" and can't get in on its own merit, without having to "curry favour", then there's something wrong. So no, I don't agree that party's should have to bend their principles to get their ideas heard. Is that so hard for you to comprehend?

It's not a fuckin game! although it would seem that the drama queens find it an acceptable way for a government to behave.

It is a game, A game of thrones....... oh sorry wrong book.