Why are motorcycle shops closed on Sundays?

[Latte]

Yes it is. Customer should not have to change there buying patterns to suit retailers.

Interesting , do you bank much?

[Virago]

If there was money in it they would.

...if you could hire somebody to work the extra day and still give you the time off but still make a profit would you not try?...

Your answer has already been given above.

You can be sure that if it was going to be profitable, they'd do it. I've seen several bike shops announce longer hours, including Sundays and late nights. It usually lasts no more than six months - due to lack of demand and sales.

But, this is the Kiwi way - we want shops open 24/7, so that we can go and try things out for size before going home to order the stuff over the internet. How dare they not provide that service...?

[nzspokes]

Interesting , do you bank much?

Yes but not at a bank, its what we have the interweb for.

[Latte]

Yes but not at a bank, its what we have the interweb for.

So you didn't expect the banks to start opening sunday for you, instead you found an alternative that the banks offer, that you can use when it suits you?

So if there were alternatives (For example, going to another store that is open, or shopping online) would you use those options instead?

[nzspokes]

So you didn't expect the banks to start opening sunday for you, instead you found an alternative that the banks offer, that you can use when it suits you?

So if there were alternatives (For example, going to another store that is open, or shopping online) would you use those options instead?

Dont know where you live but my bank is open on Sunday at the mall.

[Latte]

Dont know where you live but my bank is open on Sunday at the mall.

So on a sunday you go to a bank that is open, rather than one that is closed? Did you complain about the closed bank on a public forum?

[jafar]

When I was over in the states a couple of years ago the bike shops were open wednesday to sunday . Closed monday & tuesday, it seemed to be universal there. The theory I assume was that they sold bugger all monday & tuesday as most people had blown their budget over the weekend, so why be open ? A similar situation probably exists here too as most people work monday to friday & get paid before the weekend !

Bike shops are retailers, surely the best time to be open is when the punters have coin in their pockets.

[nzspokes]

So on a sunday you go to a bank that is open, rather than one that is closed? Did you complain about the closed bank on a public forum?

Why would I as all the banking I need to do I can do online when I want to. I dont need to look at my money when I transfer it.

But with a motorcycle I would like to at least sit on it before I buy.

[Latte]

Why would I as all the banking I need to do I can do online when I want to. I dont need to look at my money when I transfer it.

But with a motorcycle I would like to at least sit on it before I buy.

With a major purchase like a bike I'd either take some time off work once I have the "chosen few" to make the decision on, or if I was just having a casual look, i'd go to the shops that were open.

Their reasons for not opening Sunday are just as valid to them, as your reasons for not being able to use the other alternatives available to you (other stores, organising time during the week etc) are to you.

[blue rider]

things to consider......

what type of person does work on a Saturday for 4 - 5 hrs for minimum wage?

what type of person does one wants to entrust a shop full of bikes, most of them very expensive, plus the frocks and other gear

how much training need this person to be able to work on its own on a Sunday, and not just sit in a chair waiting for the 4 - 5 hrs minimum wage to pass

will this person only work Sundays.....how long will they stick with the (presumably second) job, before the partner, kids and family will get sick of being alone on every given sunday?

how much will it cost to have someone employed, trained up to scratch (although training and retail in NZ is an oxymoron), and how much will it cost to retain this person, or have that person replaced every couple of weeks.

Retail is not Retail...

[onearmedbandit]

things to consider......

what type of person does work on a Saturday for 4 - 5 hrs for minimum wage?

Why do they have to be minimum wage? Options include closing on a weekday as some other countries traders do and being fully staffed on Sunday, or like the car industry where you have a week day off with a weekend off every couple of weeks. Depending on demand you may only require two commission based sales people staffing it on Sunday, allowing you to rotate staff..

what type of person does one wants to entrust a shop full of bikes, most of them very expensive, plus the frocks and other gear

how much training need this person to be able to work on its own on a Sunday, and not just sit in a chair waiting for the 4 - 5 hrs minimum wage to pass

They will be trained and trusted staff already employed by the business.

will this person only work Sundays.....how long will they stick with the (presumably second) job, before the partner, kids and family will get sick of being alone on every given sunday?

No they will work 5-6 days a week. With a flexible staff rota employees could still have Sundays off. If it works for the business, ie trade is increased, a commission based salesperson will be mostly happy to earn more. If it doesn't work for the business, you'd knock it on the head.

how much will it cost to have someone employed, trained up to scratch (although training and retail in NZ is an oxymoron), and how much will it cost to retain this person, or have that person replaced every couple of weeks.

It won't cost any more, well done properly it shouldn't. And it may actually increase turnover.

[nzspokes]

Why do they have to be minimum wage? Options include closing on a weekday as some other countries traders do and being fully staffed on Sunday, or like the car industry where you have a week day off with a weekend off every couple of weeks. Depending on demand you may only require two commission based sales people staffing it on Sunday, allowing you to rotate staff..



They will be trained and trusted staff already employed by the business.



No they will work 5-6 days a week. With a flexible staff rota employees could still have Sundays off. If it works for the business, ie trade is increased, a commission based salesperson will be mostly happy to earn more. If it doesn't work for the business, you'd knock it on the head.



It won't cost any more, well done properly it shouldn't. And it may actually increase turnover.

You got it.

[Woodman]

If you have say 4 experienced staff then rostering can work in their favour.

Every 4th week, they work the Sunday and then have the following Friday off, therefore every month each person gets a 3 day weekend which can be used to plan longer rides, family long weekends etc in advance. Have a junior there to keep them company and do basic serving, polishing bikes, cleaning windows etc.

Its not too hard, but if it isn't viable then its not worth it, and it may be that it will just shift sand e.g. same sales figures but spread over 7 days instead of 5.5 days.

[D3ALN]

Why are Motorcycle shops closed on Sundays? Shops seem to be closing around the country yet they close early on a Saturday and not open on a Sunday. Is this a throwback from the 70s?

I dont believe its staffing issues as every other retail operation handles it fine. Im work in a simular industry and our shops would never think of being closed on Sundays.

Of course in Auckland we have Cycletreads and Motomail open.

most of the time shops are owned and ran by riders themselves got to give them sometime to ride.

[blue rider]

most retail xtras, casuals are paid quite low, hence the high turn over and general low standard of retail staff. (NZ is not a shiny beacon when it comes to the service industry,)
This does not include bike shops as I don't know anything really about them, the dealings so far with the different stores where i bought my gear where hit and miss.
For some reason the buyers in bike shops seem to think that unisex fits ladies -go figure.

in saying that, go to any mall, shop or other retail centre and ask the staff about their wages and their sales bonuses - most likely they will just stare blankly or laugh.

as for rostering again, this assumes that the shop has enough full time staff to do rostering, most retail in NZ is rostered on 1 - 2 full time staff (usually manager/senior sales person) and the rest are casuals, and temps that have fixed hours.


disclaimer, i have started my working career in New Zealand in Retail, albeit the Ladies Frock Industry - i generally was the only one full time employed with about 4 - 5 temps making up the hours I was not working. However if ever anyone of those was sick/or otherwise unable / unwilling guess who went to work.

what is so wrong with having a shop closed one full day a week?