Congratulations 48%

[FJRider]

... Would you say that those who choose not to pay their rego shouldn't be allowed to ride?

If I recall correctly ... they are NOT allowed (by law) to ride bikes that are NOT registered (unless taking it to a place or repair)

[Berries]

Petra was interviewing them during the Election Night coverage. Jaw dropping stuff.

Yeah, she is hot.

If I am allowed to say that as a non voter.

[mashman]

If I recall correctly ... they are NOT allowed (by law) to ride bikes that are NOT registered (unless taking it to a place or repair)

I was asking for a personal opinion, not a legal definition.

[FJRider]

How are your bananas going?

Luxury items should be taxed accordingly ... they ARE and imported item ...

My apple ... and plum tree's, are fine ...

[FJRider]

I was asking for a personal opinion, not a legal definition.

You got BOTH ... which part of the answer did you NOT understand ... ???

The rules and LAWS are for all, not just for those that find them inconvenient ...

[Robert Taylor]

They shouldn't get caught and if they do get caught they should stfu and accept the penalty. Choosing not to play by the rules implies you are choosing to accept the penalty for going against them.

Not voting means you agree with the outcome no matter what it is. If you don't agree then why not lend your weight to making the outcome something else??

There's only been one election I didn't vote since I was old enough to be eligible. That one happened to be my wedding day. I had other things to worry about that day.

I have always voted, thankfully Im not old enough to vote for NZ First

[mashman]

You got BOTH ... which part of the answer did you NOT understand ... ???

The rules and LAWS are for all, not just for those that find them inconvenient ...

The part where I wasn't asking YOU in the first place.

Aha.

[Mental Trousers]

That wasn't an answer.

True, I am ready to accept any outcome. So if we agree on an policy that is at odds with that being put forwards by our govt, because you ticked a piece of paper you can air your views, and I can't? Seems a bit silly really.

er, er, er... (I missed England batter Germany 5 - 1 on my wedding day)

The answer is they can ride. Just don't get caught and if that does happen, don't complain.

Opting out by not voting is opting out of everything that goes with it as well. If there's something you object to or agree with the system for voicing those is voting.

[mashman]

The answer is they can ride. Just don't get caught and if that does happen, don't complain.

Opting out by not voting is opting out of everything that goes with it as well. If there's something you object to or agree with the system for voicing those is voting.

Damn, I thought you were going to say something entirely different

I wasn't opting out in my eyes. I was making a choice. I voted... albeit by not ticking the piece of paper. As has been mentioned elsewhere, if there was the option of "Noone" on the piece of paper, I'd go to the polling booth and tick it. There isn't, so I don't, but I have still voted.

[SPman]

Meh, we'd be screwed regardless who 'won' the election.

Unless it was Bubbles the Chimp....

More than likely.....

[Berries]

Opting out by not voting is opting out of everything that goes with it as well.

Well it's not really is it. Everyone is subject to 'everything that goes with it' whether they vote or not.

[mashman]

Meanwhile back on topic... fuck it, if they're gonna mine, mine away for all the benefit the country will get out of it. I give a shit not anymore (well a lot less than I used to, almost back to "normal"). Sell the assets, cut back on services, do what the fuck you like to the country and its people... there's noone to stop you... it is inevitable Mr Anderson.

[slowpoke]

Not voting means you agree with the outcome no matter what it is. If you don't agree then why not lend your weight to making the outcome something else??

I would have agreed with you until this year. I'm quite interested in politics, actually care about what the pollies are saying/doing, and realise politics are more important than the sports score on the weekend (although I'm interested in that too) as politics actually have some bearing on our lives.

But, this year not voting did not mean I "agree with the outcome", it meant I couldn't see any acceptable outcome. There were major flaws with both parties policies that I simply could not stomach. Labour punish those who work hard and/or smart and many would argue they reward the opposite, and selling off State assets is a complete anathema to me. I refuse to endorse either strategy.

So what were the options: the Greens who's policies are well intentioned but economically unsustainable if we want to maintain any standard of living, those with narrow agenda's and even less ideas, or the just plain loopy..

So I voted for the Abstention Party. I'm not proud of it, but I'd be outright ashamed if I'd endorsed what was on offer this year, and Key, Goff and co should be similarly ashamed that they've alienated so many of the voting public.

[jazfender]

Not voting means you agree with the outcome no matter what it is. If you don't agree then why not lend your weight to making the outcome something else??

How can you say not participating in something means you agree with it? That doesn't make sense.

Short of forming their own political party, a lot of people feel there are no candidates they would consider lending their weight to.

A million people chose not to vote, lowest since the 1880s. This should be a massive wakeup call.

[sinfull]

Who's mining what ? And what do NZers get out of this mining ? 200 jobs was it, cool ! That'll help much !