Pro-Twin & Prolite Nats (How many!)

[RobGassit]

Sarah Elliot #3 Prolite Nationals.
Sarah would love to run a Protwin too but I've spent all our money on hookers and beer. If anyone out there has a scooter she can borrow with the proviso it is returned in the condition it was given, ( plus a few one lady rider kms) please don't hesitate to give us a shout. Plus you Protwin pilots will have one more entry for your championship!

[crazy man]

the one thing l dont like about pro twins is what is spent on these bikes! should be stock with just race fairing! not over 10k spent
on the bike after brought. when tim run these in around 2001 they did 116.5 at manfeild no fairing stock everything. for me its a big put off what
you have to spend to be up the top. young guys dont have the money for a big bike starting of class

[RDjase]

HHmmmmmm..... you could be right with 125s
Think Superlite will be ok as it caters for so many.
Dont know why its been brought up to 10 from 6.
Because protwin race with superlite (meaning a decent field..even if spectators dont know theres two classes)
Prolite race with Streetstock (and nevera shortage of them)
Agree 6 125s might not be the go on a race of their own.

Think Discodan will be OK im sure there are a few 600ss bikes out there.

Hope we get to see Croft v Devereux fighting for a championship................... plus ive sunk a heap of money into Prolite/protwin

There will be at least 1 SS150 rider from the North Island there too, maybe 2 if I use the spare bike

[discodan]

the one thing l dont like about pro twins is what is spent on these bikes! should be stock with just race fairing! not over 10k spent
on the bike after brought. when tim run these in around 2001 they did 116.5 at manfeild no fairing stock everything. for me its a big put off what
you have to spend to be up the top. young guys dont have the money for a big bike starting of class

I think it depends more on throwing new tyres at these things and having a good setup. I have a carby SV that isn't worth much more than $5k and it can do 13s round Manfield and capable of winning National races.

But yea, I think the rules are too open for the class as it is. I would prefer all the classes to more restricted to save costs but then again the racers don't make the rules.

[crazy man]

I think it depends more on throwing new tyres at these things and having a good setup. I have a carby SV that isn't worth much more than $5k and it can do 13s round Manfield and capable of winning National races.

But yea, I think the rules are too open for the class as it is. I would prefer all the classes to more restricted to save costs but then again the racers don't make the rules.

hi yes you are right ,there are alot of bikes floating around at 4-5 k times have changed 5 years+ ago 10k would of been a cheap bike
and some over 20k bike + all the work done . but we all know a good rider can make others look like fools which have spent heaps on it

[Sarah311]

Sarah Elliot #3 Prolite Nationals. All Rounds.
#31 Protwin nationals. All rounds.
I've had a fabulous offer of a loaner for the Protwins from a fellow racer, so I'll be running rear end sweep for all you rocket pilots up front. Bring it on!

[quickbuck]

Sarah Elliot #3 Prolite Nationals. All Rounds.
#31 Protwin nationals. All rounds.
I've had a fabulous offer of a loaner for the Protwins from a fellow racer, so I'll be running rear end sweep for all you rocket pilots up front. Bring it on!

Sweet deal, well done!

[steveyb]

Sarah Elliot #3 Prolite Nationals. All Rounds.
#31 Protwin nationals. All rounds.
I've had a fabulous offer of a loaner for the Protwins from a fellow racer, so I'll be running rear end sweep for all you rocket pilots up front. Bring it on!

Jeez looeez you are lucky.
Your partner buys you hookers and beer to share and then someone loans you a bike.
Wish I had that kind of sway......

[Str8 Jacket]

Wish I had that kind of sway......

Stevey - you have a 'different kind' of swing!

[SWERVE]

Sarah Elliot #3 Prolite Nationals. All Rounds.
#31 Protwin nationals. All rounds.
I've had a fabulous offer of a loaner for the Protwins from a fellow racer, so I'll be running rear end sweep for all you rocket pilots up front. Bring it on!

Good onya Sarah
After much clarification of the rules..... looks like both classes will be good to go. Will see you at HD in a few weeks............have to get some tips from Rob as to best place to purchase.....er.......Beer!

[Sarah311]

Thanks for the comments and supports, unfortunately the hookers are likely to be exhausted - along with the beers, but the bike should be running!!
Hope to see you all there

[Nicksta]

Sarah Elliot #3 Prolite Nationals. All Rounds.
#31 Protwin nationals. All rounds.
I've had a fabulous offer of a loaner for the Protwins from a fellow racer, so I'll be running rear end sweep for all you rocket pilots up front. Bring it on!

AWESOME!!!!

dont worry i'll be there at the NI rounds with you too be great to have another chick to battle with!

[quallman1234]

I hear rumours there might be over 10 riders for 125's...

[Robert Taylor]

hi yes you are right ,there are alot of bikes floating around at 4-5 k times have changed 5 years+ ago 10k would of been a cheap bike
and some over 20k bike + all the work done . but we all know a good rider can make others look like fools which have spent heaps on it

Ok, what about a good rider on a good bike?????????????????????????????????

[Robert Taylor]

the one thing l dont like about pro twins is what is spent on these bikes! should be stock with just race fairing! not over 10k spent
on the bike after brought. when tim run these in around 2001 they did 116.5 at manfeild no fairing stock everything. for me its a big put off what
you have to spend to be up the top. young guys dont have the money for a big bike starting of class

That of course is complete and utter bollocks as an argument . This has been well discussed over time and there are solid reasons the rules have been sensibly formulated by a number of people who have thought long and hard and have been around for a long time in this sport.

For one race cans are cheaper to replace or repair when the bikes are crashed, and that would happen rather a lot more if the suspension was only allowed to be completely stock, irrespective that very light and very heavy riders would be especially penalised by the spring rates being far less than ideal for them.

The predominant bike of choice for this class has been the SV650 and the COLD HARD REALITY is they are a commuter bike with very lazy geometry and a stock rear shock absorber that is very ''wooden'' in action. One of the biggest single things with the SV is they need a lot more weight over the front and sharper steering and that is in part achieved by a longer and length adjustable aftermarket shock. Just so these bloody things will steer. And then once you get the weight over the front you have got to stop it blowing through its stroke, which it does so almost uncontrollably because there is next to no low speed compression damping control. So bad even a lot of road riders wont put up with this issue.

Stock they will overstress tyres and crash a lot.

Also aftermarket suspension once purchased has very good residual value to be later onsold. Ask people about this and how they can often be respec'd or traded by those geared up to do so....

Id rather people aspire than espouse that everyone should be at a lower level. With such an attitude we may as well be racing underbone chassis type bikes as they do in third world countries. And to the best of my knowledge NZ voted for the politics of aspiration last Saturday, that doesnt penalise those who are prepared to get ahead.

And who would police the ''stock'' bikes? I suggest you go to a kart meeting and witness all the politics and aggravation that goes on with their ultra controlled classes.