Congratulations 48%

[FJRider]

Save me from the empty managerialism... That there are parallels between business and government does not mean they are identical.

Even CHARITYS are now run as a business ... but STILL a charity none the less ...

FEW ... (if any) ... BUSINESS'S ... are identical ... Depends who is running them ..

[slowpoke]

Seems to me a few people have got the cart before the horse. Surely the most important issue is what you are voting for rather than the act of ticking a box. If the options are crap then the act of voting is crap. How is voting for anything that worsens the situation as you see it a remotely intelligent choice?

Voting is an expression of your belief in the way forward. I didn't agree with any proposed way forward so I opted not to endorse any proposal.

If you voted, what beliefs were you voting for? Increased taxation? Raising the retirement age? Selling State assets? Mining/exploration in conservation areas? Keeping our forces in Afganistan? Legalise cannabis? Introduction of same-sex marriage?

How can you vote in good consience if you don't believe in the options? Because JK seems like a good fella? Because your family has always voted (insert party here)? Because it makes you personally better off and to hell with everyone else?

Nup, until I see a combination of policies that I believe will take NZ forward I'll treasure my vote rather than cast it before swine.

[FJRider]

Surely the most important issue is what you are voting for rather than the act of ticking a box. If the options are crap then the act of voting is crap. How is voting for anything that worsens the situation as you see it a remotely intelligent choice?

As always ... no such thing as thinking it's a perfect life ... or a perfect system. If you DO ... you will ALWAYS be disappointed. At best, taking a best option is all you can do. If you cant be bothered learning what those options are ... .

Voting is an expression of your belief in the way forward. I didn't agree with any proposed way forward so I opted not to endorse any proposal.

That's a bullshit cop-out if ever I heard one.

Was there something on TV you wanted to watch instead ... ???

If you voted, what beliefs were you voting for? Increased taxation? Raising the retirement age? Selling State assets? Mining/exploration in conservation areas? Keeping our forces in Afganistan? Legalise cannabis? Introduction of same-sex marriage?

How can you vote in good consience if you don't believe in the options? Because JK seems like a good fella? Because your family has always voted (insert party here)? Because it makes you personally better off and to hell with everyone else?

Nup, until I see a combination of policies that I believe will take NZ forward I'll treasure my vote rather than cast it before swine.

My opinion ... only a pig would question/comment (on) anothers vote decision ... when they didn't vote themselves ...
A vote is a small step at the start of a long journey. Being part of the percentage that didn't bother ... is nothing to be proud of.

Oh ... enjoy the wait ... and enjoy the results of those that DID vote ...

I await the dribble you will come up with in future years ...

[Big Dave]

>>I await the dribble you will come up with in future years ...<<

I love sound or irony in the mornings.

[slowpoke]

As always ... no such thing as thinking it's a perfect life ... or a perfect system. If you DO ... you will ALWAYS be disappointed. At best, taking a best option is all you can do. If you cant be bothered learning what those options are ... .




That's a bullshit cop-out if ever I heard one.

Was there something on TV you wanted to watch instead ... ???



My opinion ... only a pig would question/comment (on) anothers vote decision ... when they didn't vote themselves ...
A vote is a small step at the start of a long journey. Being part of the percentage that didn't bother ... is nothing to be proud of.

Oh ... enjoy the wait ... and enjoy the results of those that DID vote ...

I await the dribble you will come up with in future years ...

Haha, nice line in abuse devoid of reason, you're a natural politician.....hang on.....Winston? Is that you Winston?

[mashman]

As always ... no such thing as thinking it's a perfect life ... or a perfect system. If you DO ... you will ALWAYS be disappointed. At best, taking a best option is all you can do. If you cant be bothered learning what those options are ... .

I agree, there's no perfect life, there's no perfect system, but there are better systems that could offer "better" lives... hence Occupy.

I feel sorry for those who have such a lack of imagination that they feel the only option available to them is to vote for the status quo As such and to quote a great man

That's a bullshit cop-out if ever I heard one.

Was there something on TV you wanted to watch instead ... ???

I do a great line in buckets of sand iffen you'd like one.

[FJRider]

Oh ... you're awake now ...

[FJRider]

... but there are better systems that could offer "better" lives... hence Occupy.

Hows that working out for you ... ??? is your support financial ... or just written/verbal on a motorcycle website ... ???

I feel sorry for those who have such a lack of imagination that they feel the only option available to them is to vote for the status quo

When/where I voted ... there was a large number of options available ...

I do a great line in buckets of sand iffen you'd like one.

They already are being used by you ... and your friends...

[mashman]

Hows that working out for you ... ??? is your support financial ... or just written/verbal on a motorcycle website ... ???

When/where I voted ... there was a large number of options available ...

They already are being used by you ... and your friends...

Not bad actually, a tad frustrating that I can't be a part of Occupy 24/7, but I feel awake. So my support is verbal, just as your support is nothing more than a tick on a piece of paper... although my support is 24/7, is yours any more fleeting than a minute in a polling booth?

Wow, a large number of options eh. Yet no "No confidence" option? I wonder why that is? Perhaps the flip floppers wouldn't flip flop and would tick the "No Confidence" option... maybe that's why such an option still it isn't there after all of these years. For the record, I registered to vote.

Oh dear, it must have hurt to type that, coz it hurt to read it... I expected more from KB

[avgas]

Hows that working out for you ... ???

Likewise.
Have things improved in your life since you have voted?

[BoristheBiter]

'
Good observation. So, perhaps running a country like a company is a dumb idea? Perhaps someone should tell the Nats and their voters.

Or maybe someone should tell labour that there is only so much money to give away on election bribes?
Or someone should tell those claiming a benefit who expect more.

[FJRider]

Likewise.
Have things improved in your life since you have voted?

Funily enough ... I did not expect much to change so soon after the election ...

DID YOU ... ???

[BoristheBiter]

yet that's what they've been doing the past few years, cutting services, merging departments, becoming "more efficient" etc... it certainly hasn't stopped them trying... tis a shame that under those circumstances, tis the non dead wood that bails. Granted that's a generalisation, but no-one likes working under the threat of losing their job and if they're any way competent, they'll bail... meanwhile to dole Q rises, people lose their livelihoods, houses, undergo family stresses etc... fuck I hate the byproduct of cutting the "dead wood".

It's because the services they cut are not the ones they should be cutting.
We all know how Labour likes a good election bribe that is unsustainable.
It's actually quite easy but most won't like or do what is necessary as they are full of self worth and entitlement.

[FJRider]

Wow, a large number of options eh. Yet no "No confidence" option? I wonder why that is? Perhaps the flip floppers wouldn't flip flop and would tick the "No Confidence" option... maybe that's why such an option still it isn't there after all of these years. For the record, I registered to vote.

You mean the I didn't / dont want to vote ... but I still want my voice heard option ...

How many of those that didn't vote have spoken at ANY time with their elected MP in the LAST three years ... on the subject of "other options" or even matters that affect them. AND/OR ... changes that they are looking/hoping for. ????

Or spoken with candidates from other parties ... on the same subject ... ???

[avgas]

Funily enough ... I did not expect much to change so soon after the election ...

DID YOU ... ???

Nope. But it happened anyway.

But what about past votes? Is there any you have regretted? Is there any you were disappointed in?
Did they make a difference?

Mine did, not all for the better either. Which is why I can kinda see where people are coming from with the lack of enthusiasm.
Same shit different day, same shit different government for them.

Not sure on how to fix that. But I have noticed that world wide people are becoming less complacent. As mentioned earlier not interested "Waiting to see if it blows up".
Nothing good can come from that. Today 25% of people don't vote, tomorrow they could stop working, 20 years from now they could be lighting molotovs on the street.
Whats the problem in fixing it now?