Jaden Hassan

[Shaun]

one season in the FormulaXtreme championship in Australia would be my move if I was him, there are a few very fast riders in that class

[Mental Trousers]

When I saw Jaden in late November, at the last bucket races (supporting his also fast younger bro' at Mt. Wellington), his leg was in a cast!

His sister was walking around in a cast on Saturday. What the hell do they do in that household??

I would've been very surprised if Jaden hadn't won at Hampton Downs. I'll be very surprised if Sketchy doesn't do the same at Manfeild. At Wanganui it could be all on.

[Mort]

1:06.15 at Hampton Downs on Saturday - that was impressive. A great young talent.

[Kiwi Graham:Me]

Jaden isn't going to Wanganui.
His sis had a car crash
And plans are a foot (excuse the pun) to get him accross the ditch or even to Europe

[gixerracer]

one season in the FormulaXtreme championship in Australia would be my move if I was him, there are a few very fast riders in that class

OZ is a waste of time and money unless thats your goal to race in OZ. If they want sucsess then europe or BSB is the only option in this day and age not much point wasting a year and 100k in OZ all there top level riders are trying to get overseas also

[Shaun]

OZ is a waste of time and money unless thats your goal to race in OZ. If they want sucsess then europe or BSB is the only option in this day and age not much point wasting a year and 100k in OZ all there top level riders are trying to get overseas also

your crashes are making you stupid man

it would cost $18k to do all 6 rounds of the Formulaxtreme+ air fares from NZ

If Jadden could run in the top 3 all the time at new tracks, he would prove to himself and potentuall backers that he does have what it takes, and not just a track specialist

Your distorted figure is what it would take to head down the rout you suggest

Back to the sand pit now buddy

[wayne]

between mid 30ks to 40k for aussy asbk

[Damien_Toman]

OZ is a waste of time and money unless thats your goal to race in OZ. If they want sucsess then europe or BSB is the only option in this day and age not much point wasting a year and 100k in OZ all there top level riders are trying to get overseas also

I totally agree with you, Gixerracer. A few British Superbike rounds would be perfect.

I watched The Croz make his mark in England in the early 80's. I was even there at his very 1st race at Brands Hatch. He was fantastic on the old Moriwaki Kawasaki. Everyone was blown away! He had never seen the track before and was showing the experts the way 'round - even in the wet. I watched Crosby sliding the front end around Clearways corner - nobody could do that! He did. And, stayed on. He was an instant sensation.

He was very quickly offered a works GP ride - his book tells the story well.

Jaden is also awesome in the wet - that requires good brake and throttle control.

Damien

[steveyb]

I realise that I have not been there and done that, but one does not necessarily need to have been there and done that to understand a few things.
I have been looking hard at what is going on in the world of bike racing and my conclusions are thus (which I have posted here previously) and I am ducking for cover.........NOW.....

If you want to have fun bike racing and maybe rise to the top in a small pond, stay in NZ. Nothing wrong with that.

If you want to race against some really fast guys, but ultimately waste money and maybe get shat on, go to Oz. Some merit depending on your ambitions, because let's face it, not everyone and really not many people will have the resources to go elsewhere. So really, nothing wrong with that if your ambitions are not higher. If they are, read on......

If you want to race against a small number of some of the best riders in the world AND make money, go to the USA. But the economy over there might need a little while to fix itself up right at the minute.

If you want a stepping stone into the European scene and only speak english, go to the UK. You will need money but paid rides are available and the BSB 600SS and SBK are the best national championships in the world.

If you want to be world champion (all other things being equal e.g. age, experience, size etc etc) go to Spain or at least Italy and some Spain rounds.
You will need serious money and serious logistical support to race in CEV (Spain), but in Italy the level at the moment is not so high, so a real talent might just be able to stick their heads above the crowd and the Italians will be much more accommodating than the Spanish will be. At this point, it would help if you had managed to get into Rookies Cup......

CEV is the best place to race Moto2 and Moto3 outside of the World Championships.

I have some experience. My good friend was CIV 125GP champion 2005. For him it was simply expected, not living a dream, or a lofty goal, that he would progress to World Championship after that. He did not set the world on fire there, but he raced 4 seasons in 125, got points, and did half season in 250 and half season in 600 Superstock.

Japan is another option, but language can be a barrier and it really seems that Japanese riders are not breaking out into the world in the numbers they did 10-15 years ago. There should be a handful of Japanese riders in 125GP/Moto3 but there is not. Shaun knows about racing in Japan, but I humbly suggest the scene may have changed a bit since then with the economic situation.

Look to see what Wayne Garnder is doing. He has the money and contacts, so good on him, but the path they are putting Remy on is the ladder to the top. He has not raced at any serious level in Australia (mainly cos he lives is Europe).

My 2c worth, for what it is worth. Oh, and by You, I mean the collective You, not Jaden. They are able to decide for themselves. They are doing a good job of it so far....

DUCK.......!!!!!

[gixerracer]

your crashes are making you stupid man

it would cost $18k to do all 6 rounds of the Formulaxtreme+ air fares from NZ

If Jadden could run in the top 3 all the time at new tracks, he would prove to himself and potentuall backers that he does have what it takes, and not just a track specialist

Your distorted figure is what it would take to head down the rout you suggest

Back to the sand pit now buddy

Plus 30-40k for a bike so there 50-60k plus crashes etc my budget is spot on and was talking Nationals as if you want stuff on your CV it needs to be National championship wins or it dont mean shit

[gixerracer]

between mid 30ks to 40k for aussy asbk

Again plus a bike plus travel from NZ of living in oz plus mechains and helpers it goes on and on and if you wana win you gota do it properly or its a waste of time

[slowpoke]

One big advantage with Oz is that you can make such farkin' good money over there, so if you're a young fulla/fullessa I don't know why you wouldn't just move to Oz full stop. Obviously Jaden is a bit young but he's the exception, most of our riders coming through at much older ages.

[jellywrestler]

Plus 30-40k for a bike so there 50-60k plus crashes etc my budget is spot on and was talking Nationals as if you want stuff on your CV it needs to be National championship wins or it dont mean shit

how much of that is set aside for pies?

[Mental Trousers]

Anything that gets rides outside EN ZUD is good progress. Jaden did well on the Moriwaki 600, although the crash wasn't at all helpful. But he needs to get more rides overseas. Anywhere. We can't be picky here cos we're at the arse end of nowhere where motor racing is concerned.

[Damien_Toman]

Jaden's back tyre very low in practice session. I expect he fixed that for the race .