What a great feeling - quitting my job

[blue rider]

It is. But at the same time, there has to be 100 advertised jobs that require a person with one's particular qualifications (be they experience or a bit of paper).
Let's see - If I had degrees in engineering, social work and soil science, a bar manager's licence, every driving licence class known to man, was a plumber, mechanic and electrician by trade, had worked in forestry, roading, retail, IT and as a deckhand on a fishing boat - then there might have been 50 jobs in the last year that I may have been a qualified applicant.
Sure, there is the whole of the rest of the country to consider, but we really don't fancy moving elsewhere. Not when there are still options...

but but do you speak mandarin

fact is there is a bit of a job shortage in this country.
fact is a lot of people have lost jobs over the last 3 years, and not all of them are lazy, unkempt leeches happy to live of the dole.
fact is not everyone can uproot just like this and move to somewhere to start new - i have done it a couple of times and it does not get easier with age, or with family etc.
fact is that age discrimination is a fact, it happens, to experienced, over qualified etc....

so to say just try harder is a bit of limp comment, it gets tired after a while, painly visible as there are 700 people applying for 1 job. And that is just one of the jobs these 700 people have applied for.
What was that headline sometime ago in Auckland at the opening of a supermarket, 1000+ people lining up for some 30 positions to be filled?

I don't get much satisfaction out of my worklife, and I would pack up and move and might will if an opportunity presents itself, but those of us that have jobs with living wages we do consider us lucky.

[avgas]

It is. But at the same time, there has to be 100 advertised jobs that require a person with one's particular qualifications (be they experience or a bit of paper).
Let's see - If I had degrees in engineering, social work and soil science, a bar manager's licence, every driving licence class known to man, was a plumber, mechanic and electrician by trade, had worked in forestry, roading, retail, IT and as a deckhand on a fishing boat - then there might have been 50 jobs in the last year that I may have been a qualified applicant.
Sure, there is the whole of the rest of the country to consider, but we really don't fancy moving elsewhere. Not when there are still options...

What do you want to do?

[oneofsix]

but but do you speak mandarin

fact is there is a bit of a job shortage in this country.
fact is a lot of people have lost jobs over the last 3 years, and not all of them are lazy, unkempt leeches happy to live of the dole.
fact is not everyone can uproot just like this and move to somewhere to start new - i have done it a couple of times and it does not get easier with age, or with family etc.
fact is that age discrimination is a fact, it happens, to experienced, over qualified etc....

so to say just try harder is a bit of limp comment, it gets tired after a while, painly visible as there are 700 people applying for 1 job. And that is just one of the jobs these 700 people have applied for.
What was that headline sometime ago in Auckland at the opening of a supermarket, 1000+ people lining up for some 30 positions to be filled?

I don't get much satisfaction out of my worklife, and I would pack up and move and might will if an opportunity presents itself, but those of us that have jobs with living wages we do consider us lucky.

And all those true facts will be lost on the fukards that think the jobs are out their. We have family friends like this, you get them to concede that it isn't as they make out and nek minit square bloody 1 again. None so blind as those that don't want to see.

[avgas]

Just checked my inbox. For 2011 I have 52 "decline" emails.
But I only need 1 "offer" one to get a job.

I am being picky on what I am applying for. I have a job, and I want to improve my life. In 2009 when I lost my job I had 220 declines in 3 months - I was desperate and applying for everything I could do. But I got 1 "offer" email and thats all it took.
I have been headhunted since then, but I want out of this industry/role. I only took it before due to desperation (I can't get benefit).

I would have washed dishes at the time. Its pretty depressing when you get in a situation like that. Which is why I know what you guys are feeling - but "Harden up - keep applying" is the only advice I can give you that will make a difference.
Fact of the matter is you can cry hell or high water about the job crisis...........I did...........but it actually achieves nothing.
This country is fucked and jobs aren't going to magically appear any time soon, this is why you have to spam your name out there (apply for jobs you can't do), you have to knock on doors.
Sitting here crying over spoiled milk achieves nothing.

[MSTRS:Me]

What do you want to do?

What I'm doing now - with work coming through the door.
Since it's not, and getting worse, I need to work for someone else. Doing a fair day's work for a fair day's pay.
As to what that job might be - I have no idea. I can turn my hand to many things, but as I said above, I don't have paper/experience in areas that would increase my opportunities.
Pointless going to Uni/Polytech to get paper too - fresh graduates in all fields are fucking off overseas to get work...

[kiwifruit]

fukards that think the jobs are out their.

There* ARE jobs out there. They may be jobs people think they are too good to do or jobs they think don't pay well enough.... but they do exist. If you're prepared to do dirty work, 12 hour days, 7 days a week for minimum wage you'll get work easily. If not, it'll be harder.

None so blind as those that don't want to see.

Indeed!

[yungatart]

There* ARE jobs out there. They may be jobs people think they are too good to do or jobs they think don't pay well enough.... but they do exist. If you're prepared to do dirty work, 12 hour days, 7 days a week for minimum wage you'll get work easily. If not, it'll be harder.

Where is the life in that?

[MSTRS:Me]

Heard of the time/money equation?

If you're prepared to do dirty work, 12 hour days, 7 days a week for minimum wage ...

That's not it!

[kiwifruit]

As I said, if you're not prepared to work, you'll find it hard to find a job.

I'm not talking about your situation, MSTRS, rather addressing the statement: "there are no jobs out there".

[skippa1]

There are jobs out there, it is not as easy as some think to tap into them though. I know that in my line (business management) there are jobs all over NZ, maybe not where I am though at present. So it may mean moving for some to get a job, some dont want to. I am moving from Nelson in the new year to Auckland to take up a new job......new opportunities bring a sense of excitement and new challenges. Can be as good as a holiday.

[mashman]

As I said, if you're not prepared to work, you'll find it hard to find a job.

I'm not talking about your situation, MSTRS, rather addressing the statement: "there are no jobs out there".

Is there a job available for everyone that wants one? Will earning minimum wage stop the bank from repossessing someones home? Are the bank going to help out in that scenario (for a short period yes, failing that, no they couldn't give a fuck), or should you sell everything that you have earned, yes earned, throughout your life in order to keep the wolf from your door and even then once you've sold everything the wolf still comes. I can understand why people won't just do anything for minimum wage and will hold out for something that'll keep them in the manner to which they have become accustomed. There's aren't enough jobs available, hence there are no jobs out there.

as the lady says

Where is the life in that?

and unfortunately it's an every day occurrence. It pisses me off no end.

[kiwifruit]

If you're feeling down-and-out with what your life's all about

Lift your head up high and blow your brains out

[Headbanger]

Funny enough I have applied for a single job, and its going well so far, been called back for a second interview and it seems the process is being accelerated to get me onboard, If I get this one it will instantly elevate me to a level that could have taken a decade.

Heh, That turned to shit.

3 interviews, HR, Site management and then regional management.psychology testing, verbal reasoning testing, Mathematical reasoning testing, Then I had to do a formal presentation based on the structure they gave me, then a full medical, a site visit where I was introduced to me new co-workers, shown the site and my work station.

followed by a phone call to say I didn't make it through.

Yee fucking haaa.

Never mind, applied for another role a few days back, had the interview on Monday, Was notified I had the job on Tuesday, and on Thursday I head to Taupo to start my new role on a mobile geothermal exploratory thermal drilling rig.

[avgas]

Heh, That turned to shit.

3 interviews, HR, Site management and then regional management.psychology testing, verbal reasoning testing, Mathematical reasoning testing, Then I had to do a formal presentation based on the structure they gave me, then a full medical, a site visit where I was introduced to me new co-workers, shown the site and my work station.

followed by a phone call to say I didn't make it through.

Yee fucking haaa.

Heh. I had the same problem with Revera and Vulcan Steel last year. Sometimes I wonder if they want me to hold their hands through the whole process.........but at the end of day I am simply the bitter guy who got turned down.
But please if your hiring people - don't waste their time. Theirs is just as precious as yours.

[avgas]

What I'm doing now - with work coming through the door.
Since it's not, and getting worse, I need to work for someone else. Doing a fair day's work for a fair day's pay.
As to what that job might be - I have no idea. I can turn my hand to many things, but as I said above, I don't have paper/experience in areas that would increase my opportunities.
Pointless going to Uni/Polytech to get paper too - fresh graduates in all fields are fucking off overseas to get work...

Actually the 'paper' thing in NZ is a myth. I have enough paper to kill a man.........yet I can be replaced tomorrow with a guy who has none but work experience similar to mine.
In any other country paper counts. In NZ it rarely does. Take it from someone who is supposed to have "5 letters" after his name and still can't find a better job (and my work is drying up here too).