French bikers forced to wear hi-viz clothing from 2013

[steve_t]

I guess we'll have to wait and see. If there's no drop in the number of accidents with the vests on, surely we wouldn't adopt it. I guess we'd have to look at their results after at least 5 years though since there could possibly be a coincidental drop or an initial drop that just goes back to normal rates after a while... much like our 4km/h tolerance on public holidays. The first Queen's Birthday weekend was statistically great, but we now see that over a number of periods, the road toll during public holidays has in fact increased! Whether it's to do with the speed tolerance is unlikely. /rant

[whowhatwhere]

150 square cm is a bit of a stupid measurement as it's such a small patch.

[george formby]

Ooh the irony. This time last year they banned the Burqa, now enforcing hi viz. Maybe next year stockings & suspenders will be made compulsory.

[steve_t]

150 square cm is a bit of a stupid measurement as it's such a small patch.

That's about the size of an L plate right?

[MSTRS:Me]

150 square cm is a bit of a stupid measurement as it's such a small patch.

Which was my point in an earlier post...when the new law proves to be ineffective, there won't be a whole rethink, they'll just increase the size. Rinse/repeat. Until they bring in the full dayglo bodysuit.
And when THAT doesn't work....

[Scuba_Steve]

Which was my point in an earlier post...when the new law proves to be ineffective, there won't be a whole rethink, they'll just increase the size. Rinse/repeat. Until they bring in the full dayglo bodysuit.
And when THAT doesn't work....

insert the stick a-little at a time, the idiots don't notice then.

[steve_t]

insert the stick a-little at a time, the idiots don't notice then.

Nek minit... frog's boiled

[Voltaire]

The French banned the Burqa on religious grounds.....so French bikers should start up a religion ( club) make the hi viz vest the costume of choice and then the Govt will ban it....

Maybe KB should register as a church....say and we all 'donate' our rego money...KB pays your rego and claim it back as religions are tax free ....

[SPman]

I thought this was only a proposal, at this stage - it hasn't been passed into law yet!

I'm with James on this one......

[MSTRS:Me]

I thought this was only a proposal, at this stage - it hasn't been passed into law yet!

It has in la belle France...

[Oblivion]

Ill wear one at night. That's when I feel that it does help me be visible.

During the day, No. If they can't see me, I move so they can see me. (Within safety boundaries) I travel around 15m behind moving traffic. I don't split through traffic, I always check my mirrors, and head check frequently, I look for hazards.

If I can't be seen then, They must be

[pete376403]

Not all hi vis is bad. The dayglo yellow and orange ones are a bit lurid, but some jackets have reflective material that looks good 'n' black by day but lights up when illuminated, as shown. These pics taken about a minute apart, one with and one without flash.

[Bob]

It has in la belle France...

Exactly. The European Union (an oxymoron if ever I heard one) is debating making this an EU-wide regulation. But member states can apply more restrictive legislation should they choose; in this case, the French have jumped the gun and make it law.

[cave weta]

This will absolutely KILL Harley Davidson sales..........




unless of course they come with tassles and matching gayglo arseless chaps.

[swbarnett]

Ill wear one at night. That's when I feel that it does help me be visible.

Therein lies the problem. Even some bikers don't get the point that "Correlation does not mean causation".

While there are a significant number of us that wear them by choice we haven't got a show.

Now is the time to burn the vest. The only way we're ever going to fight this kind of shit is to band together and refuse to wear them.