Safer Journeys for Motorcycling

[Brian407]

Where is the source for this crap?

http://www.fedfarm.org.nz/flybeforedrive

Read it and weep, then do some of your own research. Theres plenty of it out there. But i'm guessing your a farmer, and everbody knows Farmers cant be criticised.

[James Deuce]

It's the TV license all over again.

[Scuba_Steve]

http://www.fedfarm.org.nz/flybeforedrive

Read it and weep, then do some of your own research. Theres plenty of it out there. But i'm guessing your a farmer, and everbody knows Farmers cant be criticised.

did you even read it??? This is about raising the age, not the test itself. Infact they even say -

""What Federated Farmers wants, is to keep the driving age at 15 and give our young people enhanced training and more practical experience from an earlier age."

[James Deuce]

Nah. Farmers are just after unpaid workers who will clear 4 hectares of gorse for the opportunity to drive the ute into town to pick up 400l of drench. They call these workers "son" and "daughter".

[Brian407]

did you even read it??? This is about raising the age, not the test itself. Infact they even say -

""What Federated Farmers wants, is to keep the driving age at 15 and give our young people enhanced training and more practical experience from an earlier age."

Read further dickhead, theres plenty of releases on that site where they contradict themselves, by one minute supporting more training then the next minute opposing anything that takes longer. And of course, there was the widely publicised oposition on national TV and print media by Don Nicholson (former prez) where he basically said that any government that made it harder for farm boys to get licences would "risk loosing the support of farmers" and now Bruce Wills is saying the same thing, or were you asleep when that was going on.

[Brian407]

Not my problem if you choose to read only HALF the info available, and then quote things out of context.

[Hitcher]

Read further dickhead

I thought you said you were leaving?

[Brian407]

Nah, you'd miss me. Couldnt have that.

[riffer]

I'm curious to find out whether you are going to respond to my post, or whether your entire contribution to motorcycling is, in fact, ad hominem dressed up as debate?

[Brian407]

While i'd love to respond to your taunt, at present I'm not in a position to do so. Draw your own conclusions from that but I can hear the 'raucous laughter, and the "I told you he had nothing"s from here. All I can say to that is you're wrong, couldnt be more wrong, but you'll believe what you want.

[Scuba_Steve]

Read further dickhead, theres plenty of releases on that site where they contradict themselves, by one minute supporting more training then the next minute opposing anything that takes longer. And of course, there was the widely publicised oposition on national TV and print media by Don Nicholson (former prez) where he basically said that any government that made it harder for farm boys to get licences would "risk loosing the support of farmers" and now Bruce Wills is saying the same thing, or were you asleep when that was going on.

I read the link you posted Mr N. Smith, the whole 1 page of it. I'm not about to waste my time going through every article on the site just to prove what I already know. That you have no fucking idea what your on about.

[bikaholic]

I read the link you posted Mr N. Smith, the whole 1 page of it. I'm not about to waste my time going through every article on the site just to prove what I already know. That you have no fucking idea what your on about.

Here's the final submission from the Feds on safer journeys http://www.fedfarm.org.nz/f2679,1031...Submission.pdf
I don't think it is much different than posted on here, withstanding the fact the fact that all the arguements are in the detail, and the submissions are not the place for that.

I was expecting correspondence between the feds and himself, but it is obvious in 30 years of bronz brian has done nothing.
'Raucious laughter happening'.

[davereid]

Here's the final submission from the Feds on safer journeys http://www.fedfarm.org.nz/f2679,1031...Submission.pdf

Safer journeys is a (pair) of different documents - that submission was on the last P.O.S. the NZTA did.

Interestingly it offered clear (if unsupported) evidence that the age at which one gets a licence is way less important in terms of road safety than the number of years that one has held the licence.

So it will remain to be seen if the change in age simply bumps up the age at which we have accidents.

[riffer]

I was expecting correspondence between the feds and himself, but it is obvious in 30 years of bronz brian has done nothing.
'Raucious laughter happening'.

Well he certainly hasn't done anything I've heard of. I stand ready to be corrected though. However, neither myself nor my father in law, who used to do the same thing in BRONZ that I do now (and CAN remember BRONZ of many years ago), can remember anything about him.

[Brian407]

Interestingly enough, there doesnt seem to be too much in the way of gigantic leaps forward from anyone else here either. Despite all your posturing were still paying 600 dollar regos and staring down the barrel of hiviz, any colour you like as long as its white helmets and reduced speed limits, yet the real issue of better and tougher licensing has barely been touched.

Well Done I Say.