Free the weed, dope, cannabis, hooch, Fri 4 Feb, outside Auckland District Courts

[jrandom]

So cannabis reduces a persons mental faculties? Can you explain that further? I mean is that the initial 30 minutes? I find it does quite the opposite.

Ed can't explain it, because he's never tried it.

But he knows enough to know that he doesn't want to, and neither should you.

[mashman]

Ed can't explain it, because he's never tried it.

But he knows enough to know that he doesn't want to, and neither should you.

I appreciate that and he is right in regards to smoking, but I'd like to know where the idea that my mental faculties suddenly vanish when I have a joint comes from.

I know, but the voices tell me to do it.

[scumdog]

So cannabis reduces a persons mental faculties? Can you explain that further? I mean is that the initial 30 minutes? I find it does quite the opposite.

Did you find that when you were stoned or whne you were straight???

[mashman]

Did you find that when you were stoned or whne you were straight???

When I were both.

[haydes55]

Weed is fine, get baked have a good time. Have a sleep, when you wake up, no hang over, feeling fine, no damage.

The negative effects of weed are mainly making average Joes go to gang tinny houses and feed gangs huge amounts of money, otherwise productive members of society getting prosecuted for what? Having fun, harming no one.

It isn't a gateway drug, If it was decriminalised price would go down supply would go up and so would demand, that sounds bad but that would be in substitute of other harder drugs and alcohol. Druggies are going to smoke drugs regardless of legality. Make weed legal, these druggies would rather be safer and stick with weed. Weed causes near no harm (watching TV probably fucks up your brain more in the long term), so why not encourage weed as opposed to harder drugs and alcohol.

[scissorhands]

Weed is fine, get baked have a good time. Have a sleep, when you wake up, no hang over, feeling fine, no damage.

The negative effects of weed are mainly making average Joes go to gang tinny houses and feed gangs huge amounts of money, otherwise productive members of society getting prosecuted for what? Having fun, harming no one.

It isn't a gateway drug, If it was decriminalised price would go down supply would go up and so would demand, that sounds bad but that would be in substitute of other harder drugs and alcohol. Druggies are going to smoke drugs regardless of legality. Make weed legal, these druggies would rather be safer and stick with weed. Weed causes near no harm (watching TV probably fucks up your brain more in the long term), so why not encourage weed as opposed to harder drugs and alcohol.

Be careful, you may have to spend next week arguing in endless circles... heres one for Scummy, he seems like the only one making any reasoned sensible statements here....

[Edbear]

No not strange, you just have your opinion which you're entitled to.
However, what can one do these days that some white coated twat hasn't "proved" is bad for you? Too much water...naha. Too much wah wah...no.

You enjoy the occasional beer, good onya. Some enjoy the occasional puff...I still don't see the difference.

It's like alcohol and other mood/mind altering drugs, but it is the way it is delivered that is inherently harmful. Smoking is a known carcinogenic and there is no safe way to smoke. It is toxic as is the smoke from burning rubber or plastic.l It has no health benefits when used as a recreational drug.

So cannabis reduces a persons mental faculties? Can you explain that further? I mean is that the initial 30 minutes? I find it does quite the opposite.

See above.

He also made Arsenic, go for it...

Ed can't explain it, because he's never tried it.

But he knows enough to know that he doesn't want to, and neither should you.

Funny how it's the favourite of users to shoot the messenger and get personal. I quote medical science from recognised authorites, and users, in paranoid defence, make out it is my personal opinion and attack and denigrate me personally. That's really going to convince everyone they are rational and logical and reasonable eh?


Did you learn everything by trying it out for yourself? That was really intelligent...

I appreciate that and he is right in regards to smoking, but I'd like to know where the idea that my mental faculties suddenly vanish when I have a joint comes from.

I know, but the voices tell me to do it.

Please, you exagerate, see my first answer to DMNTD above.

Again in answer to DMNTD, the world is ful of self-professed experts and these days it seems that everything we do or touch or eat will give us cancer. What you have to be aware of is those who claim a link by statistics are very different from those scientists and researechers who actually study the subject from the medical point of view and publish peer-reviewed and confirmable data on it.

Personally I prefer to take qualified and properly researched medical reviews and it is this that I study and research for myself, then post.

[jrandom]

Personally I prefer to take qualified and properly researched medical reviews and it is this that I study and research for myself, then post.

I suspect you of being full of shit.

Link us to the abstract of the last medical paper you 'studied'. Or are your 'medical reviews' published in the Herald On Sunday, Watchtower, and News of the World?

I wonder whether your conscience will allow you to lie about this.

[Edbear]

I suspect you of being full of shit.

Link us to the abstract of the last medical paper you 'studied'. Or are your 'medical reviews' published in the Herald On Sunday, Watchtower, and News of the World?

I wonder whether your conscience will allow you to lie about this.

Spoken like a true idiot. You could find all the medical papers for yourself, as could everyone here, but as with all addicts and as with in every other thread, you will resort to personal attack and stupid arguments like this and think you are so clever that you can get at me.

Your self-centered bigotry is boring to intelligent people, go back to your playstation and dope.

[haydes55]

Smoking is a known carcinogenic and there is no safe way to smoke.

Never heard of a vaporiser? Releases the chemicals without releasing any smoke. Safe to use and is recommended by places offering medicinal marijuana, no side effects caused by the act of smoking.

Secondly that pisses me off when people say marijuana is bad because smoking it causes cancer. Bull shit having half a cigarettes worth of smoking weed wont harm you as much as 99.9% of smokers smoking tobacco, look at amount smoked. Tobacco smokers will smoke 10-20 cigarettes every day, shit yea thats going to screw your lungs up. Weed smokers usually a heavy smoker (stoner) might have 3 a day, I personally haven't ever had more than 2 a week. I would have to smoke weed for 10 weeks to equate the same damage as a pack a day smoker smokes in one day. The smoke you breath in from marijuana has no additives like tobacco which makes the smoke even more dangerous.

[Edbear]

Never heard of a vaporiser? Releases the chemicals without releasing any smoke. Safe to use and is recommended by places offering medicinal marijuana, no side effects caused by the act of smoking.

Secondly that pisses me off when people say marijuana is bad because smoking it causes cancer. Bull shit having half a cigarettes worth of smoking weed wont harm you as much as 99.9% of smokers smoking tobacco, look at amount smoked. Tobacco smokers will smoke 10-20 cigarettes every day, shit yea thats going to screw your lungs up. Weed smokers usually a heavy smoker (stoner) might have 3 a day, I personally haven't ever had more than 2 a week. I would have to smoke weed for 10 weeks to equate the same damage as a pack a day smoker smokes in one day. The smoke you breath in from marijuana has no additives like tobacco which makes the smoke even more dangerous.

Again you miss the point with irrelevant arguments. Do you use a vapouriser? No, you smoke it and you cannot argue that smoke is not toxic and carcinogenic.

Any amount of smoke is. Sure, the more you smoke the greater the chance, that's bleeding obvious but that's not what I said, is it?

[Madness]

[SMOKEU]

Again you miss the point with irrelevant arguments. Do you use a vapouriser? No, you smoke it and you cannot argue that smoke is not toxic and carcinogenic.

Any amount of smoke is. Sure, the more you smoke the greater the chance, that's bleeding obvious but that's not what I said, is it?

You forgot that THC is a bronchial dialator, which is the opposite of tobacco.

[mashman]

It's like alcohol and other mood/mind altering drugs, but it is the way it is delivered that is inherently harmful. Smoking is a known carcinogenic and there is no safe way to smoke. It is toxic as is the smoke from burning rubber or plastic.l It has no health benefits when used as a recreational drug.

So you're not inherently against cannabis use?

I see recreational use for stress relief as a health benefit, as stress is a killer.

[Madness]

It looks like Ed took my advice & has gone for a bicycle ride...